[kxo7000]

As I understand, this is the OS Fisker will be using. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I saw it in another car, which was pretty awesome. It also makes sense not to Build-Your-Own when all the work is already done (and continues to be done). And another plus is that the OS can be re-badged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive

 

[kxo7000]

Source: What is Android Automotive? | Android Open Source Project

Android Automotive & Android
It’s important to understand how Android Automotive relates to the overall Android ecosystem:

• Android Automotive is Android. Android Automotive is not a fork or parallel development of Android. It is the same codebase and lives in the same repository as the Android shipped on phones, tablets, etc. It builds on a robust platform and feature set developed over 10+ years, enabling it to leverage the existing security model, compatibility program, developer tools, and infrastructure while continuing to be highly customizable and portable, completely free, and open source.

• Android Automotive extends Android. In the course of building Android into a full-featured platform for infotainment, we’re adding support for automotive-specific requirements, features, and technologies. Android Automotive will be a full-stack, turnkey automotive infotainment platform, just as Android is for mobile today.

 

[HotIce]

You are correct. Fisker is using AAOS. In an effort to cut down on development time and have a pretty solid foundation to work with, Fisker decided to go with something that has been developed and can be tweaked. I am not an Android fan and have security concerns but it makes sense for Fisker to use an application already has the groundwork laid out.

 

[slipnslider]

Hope that doesn't mean it won't play nice with iphones or offer carplay. It sucks when corporations make their software not work with each other on purpose to try and force you into their ecosystem.

 

[HotIce]

Hope that doesn't mean it won't play nice with iphones or offer carplay. It sucks when corporations make their software not work with each other on purpose to try and force you into their ecosystem.

Oh, it actually does work with Apple CarPlay. Android just recently put out an update that allows for Wireless Carplay.

 

[MTN Ranger]

Hopefully AAOS gets the kinks worked out soon. There are lots of issues if you go to the Polestar 2 message boards (the first car with AAOS).

 

[HotIce]

Hopefully AAOS gets the kinks worked out soon. There are lots of issues if you go to the Polestar 2 message boards (the first car with AAOS).

I'm intrigued to find out if the issue is AAOS or if it's just poor coding on Polestars side.

 

[Spursy]

I'm intrigued to find out if the issue is AAOS or if it's just poor coding on Polestars side.

IDK I have the Volvo C40 Recharge and it uses the same OS. I quite like it. Reminds me of my Tesla, how the car is essentially a tablet device. They did add CarPlay recently, and it works like CarPlay. The limitation is that if you use Apple Maps on CarPlay it still only uses Google Maps on the instrument cluster. This is actually a feature if used creatively but it is admittedly disjointed and I don't use CarPlay in that car but my wife does.

I'm stoked to find out this car will have the same OS. I had thought about another Volvo or Polestar, but I much prefer the Ocean on paper.

 

[stevelup]

I've had a Polestar 2 for 22 months now - got an early launch model.

The most disappointing thing about the car has been the lack of development on AAOS. Still many major apps missing, and the original ones such as Spotify are feature incomplete and haven't had a single update in 22 months. The only app that's had any development at all is maps, and that still has some glaring omissions.

CarPlay has been a godsend as I now have access to all the stuff that was missing, although the Polestar CarPlay implementation is (what a surprise) half baked!

 

[HotIce]

I've had a Polestar 2 for 22 months now - got an early launch model.

The most disappointing thing about the car has been the lack of development on AAOS. Still many major apps missing, and the original ones such as Spotify are feature incomplete and haven't had a single update in 22 months. The only app that's had any development at all is maps, and that still has some glaring omissions.

CarPlay has been a godsend as I now have access to all the stuff that was missing, although the Polestar CarPlay implementation is (what a surprise) half baked!

That is indeed something that I've been reading. I'm hoping Fiskers devs can take the lead in that department and give us a complete feature set. Since the software is open source, Polestar should be able to have their own devs work on improvements and have them just push it out.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[kxo7000]

That is indeed something that I've been reading. I'm hoping Fiskers devs can take the lead in that department and give us a complete feature set. Since the software is open source, Polestar should be able to have their own devs work on improvements and have them just push it out.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the owners of the app are responsible for providing a "specific" version of the app.
For example, the YouTube app for a Samsung TV and an LG TV, etc would come from the YouTube developers. I might be totally wrong, but I always assumed that LG or Samsung or in this case, Polestar, would request a build for their device.

 

[HotIce]

I think the owners of the app are responsible for providing a "specific" version of the app.
For example, the YouTube app for a Samsung TV and an LG TV, etc would come from the YouTube developers. I might be totally wrong, but I always assumed that LG or Samsung or in this case, Polestar, would request a build for their device.

That's a possibility, but I think that the main apps provide an API and the devs from the automotive manufacturer work off of that. I'll do some digging tonight and we can have more answers.

 

[HotIce]

I've had a Polestar 2 for 22 months now - got an early launch model.

The most disappointing thing about the car has been the lack of development on AAOS. Still many major apps missing, and the original ones such as Spotify are feature incomplete and haven't had a single update in 22 months. The only app that's had any development at all is maps, and that still has some glaring omissions.

CarPlay has been a godsend as I now have access to all the stuff that was missing, although the Polestar CarPlay implementation is (what a surprise) half baked!

How is the app experience? The Fisker app to control the car is probably going to be very similar.

 

[stevelup]

You mean the phone app?

It's the worst car app I've ever used. It is missing core functionality, has a weird 'style over substance' UI where sheer guesswork is needed as to which bits you poke, and is unreliable (although that has improved a lot recently).

But don't worry, that's nothing to do with AAOS and everything to do with whoever made the app!

 

[FutureSurfer]

You mean the phone app?

It's the worst car app I've ever used. It is missing core functionality, has a weird 'style over substance' UI where sheer guesswork is needed as to which bits you poke, and is unreliable (although that has improved a lot recently).

But don't worry, that's nothing to do with AAOS and everything to do with whoever made the app!

I just looked the app up and it is reviewed as hot garbage. Glad to hear it is getting better though.

 

[kxo7000]

That's a possibility, but I think that the main apps provide an API and the devs from the automotive manufacturer work off of that. I'll do some digging tonight and we can have more answers.

Check out this video, from a May 2022 update.
Based on what they are saying, more apps are being ported over to Android Auto and they are calling out to developers to create more apps.
So it seems that Polestar, for example, wouldn't be responsible for porting, say, Pandora or Amazon Video, or Netflix to AAOS. Pandora, Amazon, and Netflix would be responsible.
Nothing stops Polestar from creating its own Polestar-specific apps, as the development tools (Car App Library, etc) are open source.

 

[kxo7000]

I also found this paragraph very interesting from the Wikipedia article:

Android Automotive is an open source operating system and, as such, a car manufacturer can use it without the Google Automotive Services (GAS), which are a collection of applications and services (Google Maps, Google Play, Google Assistant, etc.) that OEMs can license and integrate into their in-vehicle infotainment systems. Volvo, Ford and GM are using AAOS with GAS, where Stellantis didn't licence GAS and uses Alexa and TomTom.

 

[HotIce]

Good find! I really hope Fisker moves forward without GAS.

 

[TT97]

You mean the phone app?

It's the worst car app I've ever used. It is missing core functionality, has a weird 'style over substance' UI where sheer guesswork is needed as to which bits you poke, and is unreliable (although that has improved a lot recently).

But don't worry, that's nothing to do with AAOS and everything to do with whoever made the app!

I am guessing you never used the VW App?

 

[kxo7000]

Good find! I really hope Fisker moves forward without GAS.

That means Fisker will have to develop its own Mapping SW, Phone SW, and other apps that come built-in with GAS.
BTW, a list of cars using GAS and those NOT using GAS 👇

With GAS

Without

Polestar 2 Polestar 3 Polestar 4 Polestar 5 GMC Hummer EV 2022+ GMC Sierra 2022+ GMC Yukon 2022+ Chevrolet Tahoe 2022+ Chevrolet Suburban 2022+ Chevrolet Silverado[16] Chevrolet Silverado EV Cadillac Lyriq[17] Renault Austral Renault Mégane E-Tech Electric[18] Volvo XC40 Recharge Volvo C40 2022+ Volvo S90, V90, V90 Cross Country 2022+ Volvo XC60 2023+ Volvo XC90 2023+ Volvo S60, V60, V60 Cross Country 2023+ Volvo XC40

Rivian R1T Rivian R1S Lucid Air Lynk & Co 01 2022+ Maserati Ghibli, Levante, Quattroporte 2021+ Dodge Durango 2021+ Chrysler Pacifica