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Good video from Barcelona with real rear cargo measurements. Width 36" Depth 40" Height 26" at the widest points. (By comparison, ID.4 is about 20% larger, Model Y is about 30% larger.) Looks to be around 18-20 cubic feet with seats up.

Time stamped at the rear measurers but worth watching entire thing:
 
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Thanks for the video and measurements...that helps. A bit smaller than I expected, and I'm not really sure where the space is going. My wife's 2021 CX-5 has an overall length of 179.1" vs 188" for the Ocean, 72.5" width vs 78.5" for the Ocean, and a 66.2" height vs 64.2" for the Ocean. Granted, the Ocean height is a bit lower, but it's also 9" longer and 6" wider.

The Mazda has a cargo capacity of 30.9 cu ft vs roughly 21.7 cu ft for the Ocean (before taking into account angling in of windows/greenhouse/etc). Maybe the Ocean will have huge legroom, but from the video above, the guy sitting in the back seat looked about like what you'd expect in a compact SUV.

I have a full-size pickup for hauling duties so not a huge deal, but genuinely curious where the capacity went, since a lot of the things that might usually eat into interior space in a gas car don't exist.
 

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Thanks for the video and measurements...that helps. A bit smaller than I expected, and I'm not really sure where the space is going. My wife's 2021 CX-5 has an overall length of 179.1" vs 188" for the Ocean, 72.5" width vs 78.5" for the Ocean, and a 66.2" height vs 64.2" for the Ocean. Granted, the Ocean height is a bit lower, but it's also 9" longer and 6" wider.

The Mazda has a cargo capacity of 30.9 cu ft vs roughly 21.7 cu ft for the Ocean (before taking into account angling in of windows/greenhouse/etc). Maybe the Ocean will have huge legroom, but from the video above, the guy sitting in the back seat looked about like what you'd expect in a compact SUV.

I have a full-size pickup for hauling duties so not a huge deal, but genuinely curious where the capacity went, since a lot of the things that might usually eat into interior space in a gas car don't exist.
Cargo space is definitely the weakest aspect of the Ocean. A BMW X1 (1 foot shorter) has 31% more total cargo room (59 vs 45) and X3/Volvo XC60 has 40% more (63 vs 45) cubic feet.
 

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Yeah its not the best but for my needs which is just carrying a dog around mostly will be just fine with the rear seats down and those dog windows down.
The dog should be in a proper restraint in the back seat to protect its' life as well as yours and passengers. F=MA. If a 40lb dog flies around in a 30 mph crash and hits your head or someone in the rear seat, will you/they/it survive about a 1,200 lb force on the neck?


The cargo space is apparently less than Ioniq5, GV70, MachE. 4 people with luggage looks very doubtful. I think I am getting closer to refund time. With low-end cargo room, unneeded 22" wheels, the dog window nonsense, "California Mode", a glass roof I will need to cover to black it out (no shade?), but I have to buy a heated seat on an Ultra, lack of light interior color other than dirt-prone white, they won't address SiriusXM radio when I ask, it seems their product planner is going after someone very different than me.
 

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The cargo space is apparently less than Ioniq5, GV70, MachE. 4 people with luggage looks very doubtful. I think I am getting closer to refund time. With low-end cargo room, unneeded 22" wheels, the dog window nonsense, "California Mode", a glass roof I will need to cover to black it out (no shade?), but I have to buy a heated seat on an Ultra, lack of light interior color other than dirt-prone white, they won't address SiriusXM radio when I ask, it seems their product planner is going after someone very different than me.
I ended up cancelling mine due to insufficient cargo space (I was concerned about head room as well, I have learned the hard way to stick with vehicles 40"+ for head room). I was curious about your comment re SiriusXM. I have not seen many vehicles with a built-in satellite radio for a long time. (I do not listen to Sirius so I may just be missing it.) Can't you just stream it from your phone using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto?
 

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I was curious about your comment re SiriusXM. I have not seen many vehicles with a built-in satellite radio for a long time. (I do not listen to Sirius so I may just be missing it.) Can't you just stream it from your phone using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto?
SiriusXM may not get a lot of attention anymore, but it's just about everywhere from BMW to the new Subaru my son picked up two weeks ago. Here is just that one example of many possible.
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Usually they come with free trials. The head unit just needs to be compatible as almost all are, but it's always listed in the specs. I don't see it here, which is very unusual. We have three lifetime subscriptions purchased in the early 2000s which now amortize out to pennies per month for all three vehicles we have/replace. Any new car for us wil have Sirius. As to CarPlay, I've tried it and dislike it intensely. It interrupts built-in navigation whenever some random person happens to text me.
 

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SiriusXM may not get a lot of attention anymore, but it's just about everywhere from BMW to the new Subaru my son picked up two weeks ago. Here is just that one example of many possible...
I got it! So it is essentially a built-in streaming app. Thx (BTW, I agree with you on CarPlay but lots of people seem to love it. Not sure why.)
 

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I ended up cancelling mine due to insufficient cargo space (I was concerned about head room as well, I have learned the hard way to stick with vehicles 40"+ for head room). I was curious about your comment re SiriusXM. I have not seen many vehicles with a built-in satellite radio for a long time. (I do not listen to Sirius so I may just be missing it.) Can't you just stream it from your phone using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto?
exactly ,stream it as well as pandora from your phone.
 
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