Has any new, radically different vehicle ever been delivered on time, with all the specs accurate, software finalized, and pricing accurate? This must be such a HUGE and challenging endeavor. As an Ocean One buyer, we bought into the vision, the designer, the manufacturer, and the experience. Let's let this experience be part of the expectation. I for one, believe it will happen, expectations will be exceeded and we will have a really cool, unique, vehicle to rip around the countryside with all eyes focused in envy. This is a once-in-a-lifetime experience I'm really part of. Hoo Haa!!
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The roadster? Because that was the original launch vehicle and only a couple thousand were made.
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I didn't go for the designer and the experience. I went for a "ordinary" SUV with excellent range, new tech and V2H.
Not everyone is a fan of HF designs (he sure has few manufactured vehicles to his name for all the accolade he gets). I much more prefer Thomas Ingenlaths design (Skoda, Volvo, Polestar), but this is just personal taste.
There is very little difference between Polestar and Fisker. Both run by a designer and contract manufactured by experienced automakers and lot of tech-sharing with that manufacturer. There is also a sustainability focus in both companies, with wildly different approaches in how they are executed and communicated.
I somehow expected the Ocean experience to be somewhat equal to the Polestar 2 experience a couple of friends had. That is on me. I knew about the shenanigans of mr. and mrs.dr Fisker over the years (I considered buying stock last spring and did some research), but I expected the SPAC-holders to keep a tight leash on the execution.
But here we are, with supply chain issues we were told time and time again Fisker was on top of, and a homologation process dragging out +4 months after SOP and Fisker blaming government half the time and the annonuced-a-long-time-ago increased cybersecurity regulations and safety systems requirements. This ruins the experience for a lot of people, and is exacerbated by Fisker keeping the specs and features hidden four months after SOP.
Not everyone is a fan of HF designs (he sure has few manufactured vehicles to his name for all the accolade he gets). I much more prefer Thomas Ingenlaths design (Skoda, Volvo, Polestar), but this is just personal taste.
There is very little difference between Polestar and Fisker. Both run by a designer and contract manufactured by experienced automakers and lot of tech-sharing with that manufacturer. There is also a sustainability focus in both companies, with wildly different approaches in how they are executed and communicated.
I somehow expected the Ocean experience to be somewhat equal to the Polestar 2 experience a couple of friends had. That is on me. I knew about the shenanigans of mr. and mrs.dr Fisker over the years (I considered buying stock last spring and did some research), but I expected the SPAC-holders to keep a tight leash on the execution.
But here we are, with supply chain issues we were told time and time again Fisker was on top of, and a homologation process dragging out +4 months after SOP and Fisker blaming government half the time and the annonuced-a-long-time-ago increased cybersecurity regulations and safety systems requirements. This ruins the experience for a lot of people, and is exacerbated by Fisker keeping the specs and features hidden four months after SOP.
Polestar is a subsidiary of Geely
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No, it is a publicly traded company and has been for 1.5 years. A lot of Polestars built in Volvo factories and with Volvo tech. That is the point.
They are well into production and has seen almost identical trend in stock price as FSR. So why people believe that FSR would increase drastically in valuation as they start production, is beyond me.
Dark is correct. Polestar is a subsidiary of Geely. Unless Geely is lying to people, Polestar is still listed as a company that they own on their website. Polestar was a division of Volvo and then spun off into its own brand but still remains a part of Geely.
Polestar – Zhejiang Geely Holding Group (zgh.com)
It's still a subsidiary of Geely. They did have to have more separation in the engineering and such with Volvo whereas before they worked pretty closely together. The manufacturing end is more of just an accounting change than anything else.
Polestar 2/3/4 were co-developed platforms with Volvo, but the 5 will be the first one entirely belonging to Polestar.
Fisker is not Magna and Magna is not Fisker. Fisker is using Magna's powertrain design and contracted them to produce the whole vehicle. I'm not totally sure where Magna ends and Fisker begins on the Ocean though.
I've always loved the design of the Z8 as well as the DB9, which by default makes me a HF fan. The Ocean has three attributes I want, style, performance and range. I'd rather drive the car than have it drive me so some of the nanny features that may or may not be there are not that important. With Magna's involvement the initial quality should be decent, but everyone should expect some hiccup's and really if you are buying any new from scratch first run vehicle there will be issues. I'm not likely to see an Ocean before mid 2024 so all of the early, early adopters should shake out all the (issues). I could be wrong, but I think the Ocean is more likely to be a massive hit than a dud, but we shall see.
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Polestar was a 50/50 JV between Geely & Volvo (and Volvo is owned by Geely). Polestar went public last year trading on NASDAQ, however, Geely & Volvo still own about 94%+ of the stock.
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What do you mean. The Polestar 1 is basically an exotic coupe edition of the Volvo 90 series (SPA platform). The Polestar 2 is a cope edition of Volvo XC40 (CMA platform). The 3 is same as new Volvo platform as well.
Polestar is not Volvo and Volvo is not Polestar or Geely either. Polestar 1 and 2 used Volvos drivetrain and 1 was contract manufactured by Volvo on the Chengdu factory who also manufactured the S90 sister model. Same with Polestar, manufactured in the Volvo Luqiano Plant that also manufactured XC40.
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I know why you like Z8 and DB9
Maybe Ocean will be the next James Bond vehicle, or Ronin.
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Ronin as the new Bond car would be awesome!I know why you like Z8 and DB9
Maybe Ocean will be the next James Bond vehicle, or Ronin.
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