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The author of the post was giving his feedback on the Ocean after returning from the Pebble Beach event.
I think the triggering sentence in the post was the following

4. The prototype feels like model, I doubt it has engines and can drive. The interior material (especially on doors) and carpet looks awful.

71 comments later, the OP turned off commenting :oops:

Some say that the production interior will be better. Some are concerned that it will be the same.
Maybe if someone can find the recent Test vehicles that HF is driving around LA, they can confirm.

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This would be why I am not on FB. Even something as simple as someone providing personal impressions of a vehicle turns a firestorm of nonsense.
 

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Well, the Big Sur Blue basically is a model. Lots of items don't work on the interior. In some ways, I wish they didn't show this one so often. The production version will have a lot of changes and final interior decisions. Notice we haven't seen the interior of Henrik's Blue Planet pre-production yet
 
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Well, the Big Sur Blue basically is a model. Lots of items don't work on the interior. In some ways, I wish they didn't show this one so often. The production version will have a lot of changes and final interior decisions. Notice we haven't seen the interior of Henrik's Blue Planet pre-production yet
Exactly. We need a spy in LA to sneak up and get some interior shots next time HF is parked in the front of a restaurant 馃槅 馃槃
 

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Well, the Big Sur Blue basically is a model. Lots of items don't work on the interior. In some ways, I wish they didn't show this one so often. The production version will have a lot of changes and final interior decisions. Notice we haven't seen the interior of Henrik's Blue Planet pre-production yet
Finally, a logical, sane voice speaks up. I left all of the FB groups for this very reason. No matter how many times you tell them that the interior is not finalized and that those are pre-production units and just placeholders, they don't listen.
 

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Finally, a logical, sane voice speaks up. I left all of the FB groups for this very reason. No matter how many times you tell them that the interior is not finalized and that those are pre-production units and just placeholders, they don't listen.
I'm sure you have seen me posting on the FB groups. It is exhausting.
 
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Had the same thing happen on a few dog group FB pages i belonged to.
I once got flamed by a 鈥渉iking with dogs鈥 group because i posted a picture of me placing a memory stone in honor of my 2 late pups on a rock formation at the top of a climb in Central Wa. They accused me of littering (鈥減ack in, pack out鈥) and when i called them out on their absurdity, i was suspended for a week by the moderator馃槀
I pretty much gave it up after that鈥
 

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The author of the post was giving his feedback on the Ocean after returning from the Pebble Beach event.
I think the triggering sentence in the post was the following

4. The prototype feels like model, I doubt it has engines and can drive. The interior material (especially on doors) and carpet looks awful.

71 comments later, the OP turned off commenting :oops:

Some say that the production interior will be better. Some are concerned that it will be the same.
Maybe if someone can find the recent Test vehicles that HF is driving around LA, they can confirm.

SOP is fast approaching. Things are heating up 馃敟馃敟馃敟
This reinforces why I don't use FB at all. This is general negative feedback and the poster is not clear about what they observed. And since it does not hold much content, it should not evoke a response.
For example, what does it mean that it "feels like a model"? Isn't that basically what it is. Why does having a motor in it matter? He should be aware there is one driving around so obviously, they can make one with a motor now. What does he mean by the "interior material is awful"? Is it worn? Is it poorly installed? Does it look like someone glued it down by hand? Because that is probably exactly how it was put together. A hand built prototype is not going to hold up the same as a production vehicle.
Fisker really needs to sunset these or just let people look at the outside. The interiors on display should only be the most recent ones off the line. But I am sure those are needed for internal testing and QC, etc...
 

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This reinforces why I don't use FB at all. This is general negative feedback and the poster is not clear about what they observed. And since it does not hold much content, it should not evoke a response.
For example, what does it mean that it "feels like a model"? Isn't that basically what it is. Why does having a motor in it matter? He should be aware there is one driving around so obviously, they can make one with a motor now. What does he mean by the "interior material is awful"? Is it worn? Is it poorly installed? Does it look like someone glued it down by hand? Because that is probably exactly how it was put together. A hand built prototype is not going to hold up the same as a production vehicle.
Fisker really needs to sunset these or just let people look at the outside. The interiors on display should only be the most recent ones off the line. But I am sure those are needed for internal testing and QC, etc...
Opinions are like a**holes and sometimes covered in馃挬 that the people post on FB. No desire to go there and as much information as is out informing people that these are prototypes, they either are not informed, maybe a Musk fanboi, are a damn negative whiner or just like conflict. Really looking forward to receiving my OCEAN down the road.
 

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This reinforces why I don't use FB at all. This is general negative feedback and the poster is not clear about what they observed. And since it does not hold much content, it should not evoke a response.
For example, what does it mean that it "feels like a model"? Isn't that basically what it is. Why does having a motor in it matter? He should be aware there is one driving around so obviously, they can make one with a motor now. What does he mean by the "interior material is awful"? Is it worn? Is it poorly installed? Does it look like someone glued it down by hand? Because that is probably exactly how it was put together. A hand built prototype is not going to hold up the same as a production vehicle.
Fisker really needs to sunset these or just let people look at the outside. The interiors on display should only be the most recent ones off the line. But I am sure those are needed for internal testing and QC, etc...
Opinions are like a**holes and sometimes covered in馃挬 that the people post on FB. No desire to go there and as much information as is out informing people that these are prototypes, they either are not informed, maybe a Musk fanboi, are a damn negative whiner or just like conflict. Really looking forward to receiving my OCEAN down the road.
this appears to be very silly thinking, about people who use facebook. I'm pretty sure people on here use Facebook, does that make them covered in _ too? A person is a person, no matter where they post. It makes it seem like if people post here, and not facebook, their opinion somehow carries more weight, and means more, than those that post on Facebook?

again, silly thinking to me, because clearly there were people (not me) on here that stated they weren't happy about the interior. so how are they any different than people who post on Facebook and say the same thing?????????
 

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this appears to be very silly thinking, about people who use facebook. I'm pretty sure people on here use Facebook, does that make them covered in _ too? A person is a person, no matter where they post. It makes it seem like if people post here, and not facebook, their opinion somehow carries more weight, and means more, than those that post on Facebook?

again, silly thinking to me, because clearly there were people (not me) on here that stated they weren't happy about the interior. so how are they any different than people who post on Facebook and say the same thing?????????
Looks like a nerve got struck. The point was that it easily becomes a contentious argument over the opinion stated in the post. The opinion of the post is neither here nor there, though I would argue it is vague. Posters on FB are not inherently better or worse than other people, it is just that it is attractive to the vocal minority since they can easily drown out the any valuable information.

That is what I use these platforms for, valuable information. I should mention you have a very similar tone to all of your posts and may be the first person I block here. Take that feedback for what it is worth but you rarely, if ever, have added to a conversation.
 

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this appears to be very silly thinking, about people who use facebook. I'm pretty sure people on here use Facebook, does that make them covered in _ too? A person is a person, no matter where they post. It makes it seem like if people post here, and not facebook, their opinion somehow carries more weight, and means more, than those that post on Facebook?

again, silly thinking to me, because clearly there were people (not me) on here that stated they weren't happy about the interior. so how are they any different than people who post on Facebook and say the same thing?????????
As I stated, 鈥淥pinions are like鈥︹
 

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Posters on FB are not inherently better or worse than other people, it is just that it is attractive to the vocal minority since they can easily drown out the any valuable information.

That is what I use these platforms for, valuable information. I should mention you have a very similar tone to all of your posts and may be the first person I block here. Take that feedback for what it is worth but you rarely, if ever, have added to a conversation.
Well my reply was about people who seems to feel Facebook posters are less desirable than people who post off of Facebook, obviously. People need to come down off their high horse. Millions of people use Facebook so that's why there will be issues. If you have just a group of 20 people on your own platform...guess what...you most like won't have issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't care less about what tone you think I have. I simply tell it like it is. If you want to block me, go right ahead, see if I care! I also think its silly for people to announce that they will block somebody, instead of just doing it.I mean what were you trying to accomplish?

I'm not getting paid to be on here, I have no duty to add anything.


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yeap, I stated my opinion, do what you want with it
 

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Well my reply was about people who seems to feel Facebook posters are less than people who post off of Facebook, obviously. People need to come down off their high horse. Millions of people use Facebook so that's why there will be issues. If you have just a group of 20 people on your own platform...guess what...you most like won't have issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can care less about what tone you think I have. I simply tell it like it is. If you want to block me, go right ahead, see if I care. I also think its silly for people to announce that they will block somebody, instead of just doing it.I mean what were you trying to accomplish?

I'm not getting paid to be on here, I have no duty to add anything.




yeap, I stated my opinion, do what you want with it
Well I certainly do not want to derail the thread but you are sorta speaking to it's original points (probably unintentionally). To your point early, I am trying to treat you like a person. I let you know I was considering blocking you and why. The fact that you don't care nor care about whether you are adding any value to theses conversations, speaks volumes. I am hoping to give you some introspective, sincerely.

That may be the difference. I do care and I do want to add value or at least be part of a useful discussion. So I ask you: why are you here? If you have no desire for that, what motivates you? As you mentioned, you are not getting paid. And I would infer from your posts that you do not believe in Fisker and have no desire in it's success.

That may be a wrong conclusion but it is one that I can only arrive at based on your overall post history. Anyway, I hope you find some use and value for your time here.
 

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Well I certainly do not want to derail the thread but you are sorta speaking to it's original points (probably unintentionally). To your point early, I am trying to treat you like a person. I let you know I was considering blocking you and why. The fact that you don't care nor care about whether you are adding any value to theses conversations, speaks volumes. I am hoping to give you some introspective, sincerely.

That may be the difference. I do care and I do want to add value or at least be part of a useful discussion. So I ask you: why are you here? If you have no desire for that, what motivates you? As you mentioned, you are not getting paid. And I would infer from your posts that you do not believe in Fisker and have no desire in it's success.

That may be a wrong conclusion but it is one that I can only arrive at based on your overall post history. Anyway, I hope you find some use and value for your time here.
Like I said, I'm not getting paid to be here. Some people just come here and get information, they do NOT ADD INFORMATION, are they a bad person too like you trying to make me out to be? I don't know you, you are just an internet name to me, so why should I take time out my life to CARE that you MIGHT block me? Yall take this group forum stuff too seriously, I mean really. You looking to get "clout" behind your username by adding info?

I'm not going to change the way I move over some internet name. that's ridiculous. You can either like me, deal with me, or not, your choice.Move on to the next post if you don't like mine. simple. You don't HAVE to reply to it just to start stuff. Nobody (except you) is losing any sleep over this, because another internet username is not posting the way you like them to!!!
 
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