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Has Fisker released the charging speeds yet? I cannot seem to find it anywhere. I am assuming it will be competitive with other new EVs at 250kw - 350kw (e.g. Hyundai, Porsche, GM, Tesla, Audi, etc.) but we have seen more than a few companies trying to get away with slow sub - 150kw charging even with big battery packs (I'm talking to you, Ford). Any word on this? I cannot imagine any new luxury vehicle not hitting these rates but obviously this is one of the most important specs for the vehicle and it is worrying that the company is not talking about it.
 
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Under the terms of the agreement, CATL will supply two battery packs for the Ocean and a total of 5 gigawatt-hours of cells annually from 2023 to 2025, Fisker said in a press release.

The two packs include a "high-capacity" pack using lithium nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) chemistry and a "high-value" pack using lithium iron phosphate (LFP) chemistry. Fisker said it's been working with CATL since 2020 on battery pack integration for the Ocean.

Both packs will also support charging at a peak of more than 250 kw, Fisker confirmed. They're also designed to be supplementary charged through the solar roof Fisker previously confirmed for the Ocean. Fisker previously announced a deal with Electrify America for fast charging, but didn't say whether that would include complimentary charging for customers.

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Thanks for the info. The 250kw+ is very good news. I was aware of the CATL and the different chemistries but appreciate the summary above.
 

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Has Fisker released the charging speeds yet? I cannot seem to find it anywhere. I am assuming it will be competitive with other new EVs at 250kw - 350kw (e.g. Hyundai, Porsche, GM, Tesla, Audi, etc.) but we have seen more than a few companies trying to get away with slow sub - 150kw charging even with big battery packs (I'm talking to you, Ford). Any word on this? I cannot imagine any new luxury vehicle not hitting these rates but obviously this is one of the most important specs for the vehicle and it is worrying that the company is not talking about it.
I posted this on the FB Ocean group…..

Either it didn’t register or I missed it. In a Nov 21 Green Car Reports they reported all models will charge up to 250kWh. That is great news, cutting charge times for trips significantly. Current VW ID4 peaks at 125kWh. It will be interesting to see how that equates to the charging curve.
 

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I think it is written 200 miles in 30 minutes. This was at 150kw charging speeds. So maybe 20 minutes for 250kw if the ocean can hold 250 for a good portion of the charging curve like the Kia EV6 and Ioniq 5
Yes this should deliver something comparable to the Ioniq or the model 3 LR which is about 18 minutes for 200 miles. That is very good news. At least for me, ~200 miles in 20 minutes is a basic requirement before I would move forward with any EV to replace my 2018 model 3 (which will be five years old when the Ocean arrives).
 

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I posted this on the FB Ocean group…..

Either it didn’t register or I missed it. In a Nov 21 Green Car Reports they reported all models will charge up to 250kWh. That is great news, cutting charge times for trips significantly. Current VW ID4 peaks at 125kWh. It will be interesting to see how that equates to the charging curve.
If this is true and the range is close to the 340 miles for Ultra, then this could seal the deal for me. Range and charging speed will add to the overall looks of the Ocean.
 

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There's no way the Sport will get the same charging speed as the other models. A smaller battery really means fewer battery modules in parallel, so at the same charging c-rate it would get a lower speed (roughly 2/3rds).
 

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There's no way the Sport will get the same charging speed as the other models. A smaller battery really means fewer battery modules in parallel, so at the same charging c-rate it would get a lower speed (roughly 2/3rds).
Or if Fisker is being Sneaky its the same Battery just Software limited. So who knows it could have the same battery which I do doubt but their is that possibility that is is just software limiting it to meet the goal of a $37k before credit EV. Because I am sure it is quite expensive to have 2 or 3 different types of Battery Modules for cars. My guess is it is just one type that is limited by software.
 

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Or if Fisker is being Sneaky its the same Battery just Software limited.
We know for a fact that it's not. Did you read the press release from the start of this thread? It makes it very clear: (high-capacity pack is for the one/extreme/ultra, value pack is sport): "The primary high-capacity pack uses a lithium nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) cell chemistry with the second high-value pack offering CATL’s latest cells based on lithium-ion phosphate (LFP) chemistry.".

Because I am sure it is quite expensive to have 2 or 3 different types of Battery Modules for cars.
Again, we already know that they have two different types of batteries. The whole battery consists of smaller modules, so there is a big saving in creating that from fewer modules. It's unclear what kind overhead costs you have in mind here.
 
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