[Misanoblue]

There is lots of new information in the Terms and Conditions in the Preorder process. Key Points:

1. Pricing can still change
2. Delivery estimates are notes at $800 for 50 miles and $2300 for 1000+ miles. This is if you do not elect to pick up your car.
3. If you leave the country prior to receiving your car, Fisker can cancel your order and keep your $5250.
4. You will have time to update the configuration, which is good as there aren't sufficient photos of the exterior/interior colors or wheel options yet.
5. For states that don't allow EV sales, Fisker will force you to buy from a state of their choice - likely California. Buyer would have to pay for transportation of the car from CA to their address. I bet many new EV buyers are unaware of this.
6. Payment is due within 30 days of the car becoming available to you. If you don't pay within 30 days, Fisker will keep your $5250. Hopefully they put some effort into contacting people.
7. If Fisker believes you will resell the car, they can cancel your order and keep your $5250.
8. Battery range isn't certified and could be lower than simulated.
9. After 3 years, there will be hardware updates available, at buyers expense to support additional OTA upgrades. I speculate this is for LIDAR, and faster computers.
10. IMPORTANT for everyone - within 30 days of making your order, you should follow the directions to opt-out of the provision that prevents participation in dispute resolution and class action waiver.

 

[oldcarrot]

#3. Only refers to changing delivery address to a different country. Not travel to another country.

 

[MTN Ranger]

Some of this does sound scary. But if you read most terms of service agreements, they are usually similar. 7. I don't know how they would know this unless you were buying a few of them (duh). Don't post eBay auctions for the car until you get it!

 

[TT97]

So, how much is destination fee if you pick it up at a Delivery Center? Assuming, the Grove is one of the centers, that would be a 20 minute drive for me.

 

[MTN Ranger]

So, how much is destination fee if you pick it up at a Delivery Center? Assuming, the Grove is one of the centers, that would be a 20 minute drive for me.

I'm assuming a minimum amount since it is a federally required fee. It's looking like less than the $800 amount if shipped within 50 miles of the distribution center.

 

[kxo7000]

There is lots of new information in the Terms and Conditions in the Preorder process. Key Points:

IMPORTANT for everyone - within 30 days of making your order, you should follow the directions to opt-out of the provision that prevents participation in dispute resolution and class action waiver.

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[Blu Angel]

@Misanoblue
Thanks for posting

"There is lots of new information in the Terms and Conditions in the Preorder process.

1. Pricing can still change ....Ok, Standard Clause
2. Delivery estimates are notes at $800 for 50 miles and $2300 for 1000+ miles. This is if you do not elect to pick up your car. ...Ok, Pick-up at FEC in NYC
3. If you leave the country prior to receiving your car, Fisker can cancel your order and keep your $5250.....Ok, not applicable
4. You will have time to update the configuration, which is good as there aren't sufficient photos of the exterior/interior colors or wheel options yet. ..Great News!
5. For states that don't allow EV sales, Fisker will force you to buy from a state of their choice - likely California. Buyer would have to pay for transportation of the car from CA to their address. I bet many new EV buyers are unaware of this. OK...Pickup in NYC
6. Payment is due within 30 days of the car becoming available to you. If you don't pay within 30 days, Fisker will keep your $5250. Hopefully they put some effort into contacting people. OK..get Financing in Place
7. If Fisker believes you will resell the car, they can cancel your order and keep your $5250. .....OK, I'm keeping the Fisker Ocean!
8. Battery range isn't certified and could be lower than simulated...OK, standard clause
9. After 3 years, there will be hardware updates available, at buyers expense to support additional OTA upgrades. I speculate this is for LIDAR, and faster computers.
10. OK...I will be able to keep Fisker Ocean up-to-date (like Tesla with FSD computer upgrade)
11. IMPORTANT for everyone - within 30 days of making your order, you should follow the directions to opt-out of the provision that prevents participation in dispute resolution and class action waiver. OK...will discuss with my solicitor

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[BayouCityBob]

I'm assuming a minimum amount since it is a federally required fee. It's looking like less than the $800 amount if shipped within 50 miles of the distribution center.

I believe the destination charge in the US is, by law, the same for all vehicles regardless of where they are delivered. From one of the dealership sites: "A destination charge, often called a freight fee or freight delivery charge, ensures new car buyers pay equally to cover the cost of delivering a vehicle to a dealership. Regardless of whether the dealership is nearby or far away from the vehicle assembly plant, this amount gets charged."

The requirement to pick up in a state that does not allow direct sales (e.g. my state of Texas) makes things a bit less clear. Other manufacturers with direct sales models require people in Texas to pay for the vehicle and transfer the title prior to shipping it into the state but all the rest is seamless.

 

[TT97]

I believe the destination charge in the US is, by law, the same for all vehicles regardless of where they are delivered.

I was thinking about that as well. The way I see it is that they do have the same destination charge to all their delivery centers. If you want the "white glove" delivery to your home; there is an supplemental charge for that delivery which will vary by distance.

 

[BayouCityBob]

I was thinking about that as well. The way I see it is that they do have the same destination charge to all their delivery centers. If you want the "white glove" delivery to your home; there is an supplemental charge for that delivery which will vary by distance.

I also think there will be a difference between the rights Fisker reserves for itself in the agreement and the actual practices they deploy in the market. These agreements tend to be much more company-friendly "just in case" something goes wrong but the typical practices of the companies tend to be much more consumer friendly to keep people happy. As with all other things Fisker, we shall see!

 

[HotIce]

Hmm. They're saying there will be updates in three years. I wonder what those updates are going to be....

 

[Bill Tatun]

My destination/delivery fee was $2450 to rural Florida. Assume it’s coming to me directly.

 

[t.blikstad]

Hmm. De sier at det kommer oppdateringer om tre år. Jeg lurer på hva de oppdateringene kommer til å bli....
[/SITAT]
It is always a risk to buy a new car, without having a long test. Therefore I am sure it will be necessary to make some improvement after a year or two.

 

[Baker]

@t.blikstad Hi, can you please get your post in english? Thanks

 

[HotIce]

My destination/delivery fee was $2450 to rural Florida. Assume it’s coming to me directly.

Hmm, I didn't see a delivery fee when I ordered. I need to go back and look at that.

 

[HotIce]

Update: Just saw it. It's about $2,480.

Update #2: The $5,000 deposit covered the taxes on the car so that's nice.

 

[Bill Tatun]

Update: Just saw it. It's about $2,480.

Update #2: The $5,000 deposit covered the taxes on the car so that's nice.

That’s it - my figure was off (I was going from memory - serves me right)….😮

 

[HotIce]

That’s it - my figure was off (I was going from memory - serves me right)….😮

Lol, it was close enough.

 

[HotIce]

Updated with the latest version. Attached it as PDF.