[kxo7000]

Maybe we can get a thread going about garage chargers.
Here are a few. Perhaps some members with experience with these chargers, or others, can comment.
Installation, use, complaints, praise, etc.

 

[182]

For what it's worth....an interesting read.

Tested: Best EV Chargers for 2023

To make the most of EV ownership, you need high-voltage charging equipment at home. Here's everything you need to know to get started.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[ToddH65]

We have used the Wall Box for previous EVs. Absolutely no complaints. Easy to install and use. I would also recommend Tom at State of Charge You Tube for reviews. He has reviewed and rated most of the major EVSEs. Pretty sure all of the ones you have pictured and more.

 

[MTN Ranger]

I recommend getting a NEMA 14-50 outlet with a 50A breaker installed. This is the most common outlet used with EVSEs. This will provide a good amount of charging speed and flexibility if you need to replace it easily.

I've done a review on this EVSE. Great pricing ($360) and supports up to 40A, LCD display, Wi-fi, data logging, and a long cord.

AmpRoad iFlow P9:

Charging a Kia EV6:

 

[MTN Ranger]

I installed two in my garage - one in the center of the rear wall and one near the front. This allows easy access and parking front in or back in and charge from either spot. As far as placement, here is a video of my garage. Of course this is for a Tesla, but it can work with any EV.

 

[TT97]

I have the Pulsar Wallbox as well. Mine originally came with the 14-50 outlet but I hardwired the unit. The unit works great and can be programmed to only charge during specific hours (which is great for the ID.4 as the in-car delayed charging had issues). I can also download charging statistics to see how much power I am using (I use the same charger for both cars but have different start times so I know which charge is for each car).

 

[Baker]

I have 30A charger on 40A breaker delivering 7.2kwh enough to charge a large battery overninght.

 

[rbt.emery]

Does anyone know the charging rate for the Ultra?

 

[MTN Ranger]

Does anyone know the charging rate for the Ultra?

The AC charging rate has not been announced yet. I'm guessing probably in the 40-48A (9.6 - 11.5 kW) ballpark.

 

[IBRLYNOR]

I love my ChargePoint Home Flex (14-50, hardwired). I installed a 60A breaker and wired it up myself. I have it set to 48A. I can dial it up to 50A but then I’d have to install a 70A breaker and thicker wiring which does not even fit the charger’s terminals. I’m OK with that 2A being wasted.

 

[rbt.emery]

Maybe we can get a thread going about garage chargers.
Here are a few. Perhaps some members with experience with these chargers, or others, can comment.
Installation, use, complaints, praise, etc.

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For a complete analysis of chargers check out the blog, State of Charge, with Tom Malogny.

 

[oldcarrot]

I love my ChargePoint Home Flex (14-50, hardwired). I installed a 60A breaker and wired it up myself. I have it set to 48A. I can dial it up to 50A but then I’d have to install a 70A breaker and thicker wiring which does not even fit the charger’s terminals. I’m OK with that 2A being wasted.

Same set up I'm going to use. It's expensive and just got $50 more expensive to $749 from $699. And I'm not comfortable hard wiring with 240V.

 

[Rotaryracer]

This looks like a potentially interesting option. I’m thinking about putting a 150A sub panel in the garage and running two 60A circuits, which would allow for 48A charging of (potentially) two EVs simultaneously.

 

[TT97]

As the Ocean will have vehicle-to-home capability, is anyone considering a bi-directional charger?

 

[HotIce]

I wonder if Fisker is going to release their own charger. Hmm.

 

[Rotaryracer]

As the Ocean will have vehicle-to-home capability, is anyone considering a bi-directional charger?

I love the concept of V2H, and potentially not having to drag my gas powered generator out when we lose power. That said, if I recall correctly, Ford’s V2H add-on adds a pretty significant amount…I think $1,500-2,000ish? I already have the genset infrastructure, so will probably just do a standard L2 charger.

 

[MTN Ranger]

I love the concept of V2H, and potentially not having to drag my gas powered generator out when we lose power. That said, if I recall correctly, Ford’s V2H add-on adds a pretty significant amount…I think $1,500-2,000ish? I already have the genset infrastructure, so will probably just do a standard L2 charger.

The Ford solution is super heavy duty at 80A. $1310 for the EVSE. The "Home integration system" hardware by Sunrun is $3895. No price for installation on the website. EV Charging | Intelligent Backup Power | Solar Energy System | FORD F-150 LIGHTNING™ | Sunrun

I'm not aware of any other V2H EVSE setups - I'm sure there must be some. I guess I will have to investigate.

 

[TT97]

The Ford solution is super heavy duty at 80A. $1310 for the EVSE. The "Home integration system" hardware by Sunrun is $3895. No price for installation on the website. EV Charging | Intelligent Backup Power | Solar Energy System | FORD F-150 LIGHTNING™ | Sunrun

I'm not aware of any other V2H EVSE setups - I'm sure there must be some. I guess I will have to investigate.

The only one I am aware of is the Wallbox Quasar 2. For now it is just for Europe but they did mention making a U.S. version. The European version is about $4k, not cheap, and you would need automatic transfer switch installed so that probably adds a couple grand but it the end still much cheaper than a Tesla Powerwall. Ideally, the charger should have or be hooked up to a small battery pack so that it can keep the power on in case of a blackout until you can connect the car (or stay powered while you run to a fast charger to top off the battery).

 

[radioactiveman]

As the Ocean will have vehicle-to-home capability, is anyone considering a bi-directional charger?

Yes. In fact that is one of the main reasons I am interested in the Ultra. And i hope there will be more options and an evolution until 2024. All I know currently is that German open source-manufacturer OpenWB (only in German language) is offering payable bi-directional charging. But at least here it does not only depend on the wallbox, but also how it interacts with the car. And even if that works, it starts to get complicated with the power companies and tax dept getting involved.

 

[TT97]

Yes. In fact that is one of the main reasons I am interested in the Ultra. And i hope there will be more options and an evolution until 2024. All I know currently is that German open source-manufacturer OpenWB (only in German language) is offering payable bi-directional charging. But at least here it does not only depend on the wallbox, but also how it interacts with the car. And even if that works, it starts to get complicated with the power companies and tax dept getting involved.

Is the OpenWB Pro a bi-directional charger? I thought bi-directional chargers needed to have CCS connectors as they charge DC and not AC (maybe that could be just in North America). I think it will be some time before V2H makes sense but it's nice to be future-ready. It always bothered me that my solar produces DC power only to have it converted to AC and then the car converting back to DC. I can't imagine how much energy loss over the years going DC-->AC-->DC; it would be nice just to have direct DC from solar right to the car!