[Emsflyer84]

Hey all, I'm sure this has been discussed, but I can't find anything on first glance around the site. My reservation has a Referral Code and a Reservation ID associated with it. Is there a way to tell what number reservation I have, etc? Just curious how I stand in the overall number or reservations. Thanks!

 

[Jay]

Try this chart: Fisker Ocean Reservation Update. Not scientific, but it's everyone's best estimate.

 

[FutureSurfer]

Hey all, I'm sure this has been discussed, but I can't find anything on first glance around the site. My reservation has a Referral Code and a Reservation ID associated with it. Is there a way to tell what number reservation I have, etc? Just curious how I stand in the overall number or reservations. Thanks!

It may be worth listening to the shareholder meeting:

FISKER INC.'s Virtual Shareholder's Meeting - Meeting page

east.virtualshareholdermeeting.com

Henrik states that they are sold out for 2023 and only Extremes will be built (after the Ones) until Q4 of 2023. Then they will build Ultras and Sports. So it depends on what trim you want. You will be able to do a full configuration in October this year and then they will allow folks to convert reservations into orders as they are able to after October. Once you lock in a trim you will have a general idea of when to expect your vehicle.

 

[Blu Angel]

@FutureSurfer

Extremes will be built (after the Ones) until Q4 of 2023.

So, the Fisker Ultra will become available in October, November & December 2023....not before

 

[526]

The hard part is we don’t know how fast production will ramp. I know they’ve made suggestions but until they get started for real, we won’t know how fast they’re building them. So, knowing when a car might be available even if you knew your exact reservation number and they go in order (they might not… it’s only my guess, but they might start with people where they have more rapidly established delivery and support infrastructure, so NY, LA, etc…) you wouldn’t know when the car will come… but I hope it’s soon 😀

 

[FutureSurfer]

@FutureSurfer

So, the Fisker Ultra will become available in October, November & December 2023....not before

Looks that way, yes. The first Ultras will be built Q4 2023. Which I am not super happy about - I thought they would try to squeeze in some Ultra/Sports before they were done with the Extremes based on how they worded things previously. But he was pretty clear this time.

 

[Bernie]

I feel like there has been some talk on here that that it has been implied if they have extra capacity they may mix some Ultras in? Not sure where that was teased out of Henriks words, maybe the shareholder meeting?

There's also the idea that maybe they won't have nearly the number of Extreme trim reservations as they expect. If they have 80,000 reservations and 40% are Extreme/One, that's 32,000, which could be 7 months of manufacturing, starting in November. Depends on how quickly they ramp. But this is Magna, not a brand new Manufacturer.

Lots of speculating. I think they will be into the Ultras by July or August, or at least mixing them in heavily.

 

[FutureSurfer]

I feel like there has been some talk on here that that it has been implied if they have extra capacity they may mix some Ultras in? Not sure where that was teased out of Henriks words, maybe the shareholder meeting?

There's also the idea that maybe they won't have nearly the number of Extreme trim reservations as they expect. If they have 80,000 reservations and 40% are Extreme/One, that's 32,000, which could be 7 months of manufacturing, starting in November. Depends on how quickly they ramp. But this is Magna, not a brand new Manufacturer.

Lots of speculating. I think they will be into the Ultras by July or August, or at least mixing them in heavily.

Well that was kinda the hope up until the shareholder meeting that just happened. He said clearly that they do not expect to be producing any Ultras or Sports until Q4. They operate in a calendar fiscal year, as far as I know, so that will be October. I would say that if they start producing them sooner than that, it would be because a much lower number of Extremes are desired from the first 40,000 reservations than estimated. They are targeting 4000+ units per month and talking about ramping up further for 2024.

 

[nitepain]

Have an Ultra rsvp but if it's going to be Nov 2023 before they even start production, I might end up one of the new Chevy EVs or a Ioniq 5. I'm like between 45k-50k anyways

 

[anraganjr]

I feel like there has been some talk on here that that it has been implied if they have extra capacity they may mix some Ultras in? Not sure where that was teased out of Henriks words, maybe the shareholder meeting?

There's also the idea that maybe they won't have nearly the number of Extreme trim reservations as they expect. If they have 80,000 reservations and 40% are Extreme/One, that's 32,000, which could be 7 months of manufacturing, starting in November. Depends on how quickly they ramp. But this is Magna, not a brand new Manufacturer.

Lots of speculating. I think they will be into the Ultras by July or August, or at least mixing them in heavily.

Yep, from what I heard in the phone call, HF said that 80% wanted the 2 top trim levels and that he didn't expect to start the Ultras til Q4. So depending on how many they have to make and where they are going and shipping times, the US might not get any til '24.

 

[BigMach-E]

So, if all of this is true, then the Ocean Sport at $37,499 is actually a figment of the imagination. Or one of them will be produced in 2023. From then on, there will be the price hike. This was never intended to be a democratization of the EV. Not producing the Ultra or the Sport until the stated price hike seems like a broken promise to the consumer.

 

[anraganjr]

So, if all of this is true, then the Ocean Sport at $37,499 is actually a figment of the imagination. Or one of them will be produced in 2023. From then on, there will be the price hike. This was never intended to be a democratization of the EV. Not producing the Ultra or the Sport until the stated price hike seems like a broken promise to the consumer.

I hear ya. But according to everyone else, this is how it's done now. Your place in line never 'really' meant anything. Yeah, you get to say no thank you to the $70K trim option and then you can't find out what the other version options will cost till a month before SOP so you can't really decide what to do anyway. And then you end up waiting another year all while watching people that just learned about the vehicle in the last month jump you in line and ride around waving at you........sound about right to everyone?

Mod edit: Please refrain from political discussion.

 

[Baker]

I hear ya. But according to everyone else, this is how it's done now. Your place in line never 'really' meant anything. Yeah, you get to say no thank you to the $70K trim option and then you can't find out what the other version options will cost till a month before SOP so you can't really decide what to do anyway. And then you end up waiting another year all while watching people that just learned about the vehicle in the last month jump you in line and ride around waving at you........sound about right to everyone? I mean it's almost like Brandon is running this process. C'mon man!

I really understand your frustration, I have the same. I reserved in last October the BMW I4 with an expected delivery in October 2022 and full subside from federal and provincial governments ($12k). The rep called me last week to inform me that the delivery will be postponed to spring 2023! On the other side there is a rumor that BMW will rise the price of $6k so then no more subside bcse the MSRP would be over the maximum of the program, it mean $18k increase on the original.
No doubt I understand you!

 

[S7davis]

So, if all of this is true, then the Ocean Sport at $37,499 is actually a figment of the imagination. Or one of them will be produced in 2023. From then on, there will be the price hike. This was never intended to be a democratization of the EV. Not producing the Ultra or the Sport until the stated price hike seems like a broken promise to the consumer.

They will have the cheaper versions until the end of 2023 so yes some Sport models will be delivered sometime in 2023 to meet the promise of selling the 37K vehicle. Then the prices will probably go up about $3k for sport $5k Ultra and probably $7 - 10k for Extreme

This is pretty much the same as what Tesla did. But the way they did it was just producing Mid-Range Model 3 but software limiting it so it only had the Range of a Standard Range Model. It had all the Premium interior that was in the higher versions but was just software limited. Now I am not saying this is what Fisker is doing but I already knew the pricing was eventually going to go up was just a matter of when.

 

[Heynowirv]

I hear ya. But according to everyone else, this is how it's done now. Your place in line never 'really' meant anything. Yeah, you get to say no thank you to the $70K trim option and then you can't find out what the other version options will cost till a month before SOP so you can't really decide what to do anyway. And then you end up waiting another year all while watching people that just learned about the vehicle in the last month jump you in line and ride around waving at you........sound about right to everyone? I mean it's almost like Brandon is running this process. C'mon man!

Take your thinning and political bullshit out of this forum, there is no place for it here. For you Canadians here Brandon is a slur like:" F&&K you Biden."

 

[HotIce]

So, if all of this is true, then the Ocean Sport at $37,499 is actually a figment of the imagination. Or one of them will be produced in 2023. From then on, there will be the price hike. This was never intended to be a democratization of the EV. Not producing the Ultra or the Sport until the stated price hike seems like a broken promise to the consumer.

If I didn't misunderstand Henrik, I believe he said they will honor the $37,499 price if placed a deposit down before the first 40,000 units. I think he referenced it in one of the quarterly earnings meetings.

 

[HotIce]

Take your thinning and political bullshit out of this forum, there is no place for it here. For you Canadians here Brandon is a slur like:" F&&K you Biden."

Please use the 'Report' feature to bring it to the Admins attention so that we keep the discussion healthy.

 

[littlebittyrose63]

Please use the 'Report' feature to bring it to the Admins attention so that we keep the discussion healthy.

Exactly! Thank you!

 

[Heynowirv]

Please use the 'Report' feature to bring it to the Admins attention so that we keep the discussion healthy.

if I knew there was a report option I would've used it.

 

[sirozha]

I feel like there has been some talk on here that that it has been implied if they have extra capacity they may mix some Ultras in? Not sure where that was teased out of Henriks words, maybe the shareholder meeting?

There's also the idea that maybe they won't have nearly the number of Extreme trim reservations as they expect. If they have 80,000 reservations and 40% are Extreme/One, that's 32,000, which could be 7 months of manufacturing, starting in November. Depends on how quickly they ramp. But this is Magna, not a brand new Manufacturer.

Lots of speculating. I think they will be into the Ultras by July or August, or at least mixing them in heavily.

There won’t be 40% of reservations converted to One/Extreme. Maybe 15-20% will choose One/Extreme. So, it’s likely that 5,000 Ones and 10,000 Extremes will be manufactured at first. As people start noticing Oceans on the road, the reservation pace will pick up. So, by April of 2023, the number of reservations will start increasing rapidly, and the percentage of Extremes among all new reservations may get to 25%, as the more affluent stratum of the population ready to buy an EV will realize that to get one soon (regardless of the brand), they should be ordering higher-end trims.

There may be 3,000 -5,000 new Extremes reserved per month starting in May of 2023. By that time, Magna should be able to ramp up to about 3,000-5,000 Oceans per month. So, it’s likely the Magna capacity to produce Oceans will be used completely on making Extremes until the production capacity per month exceeds the number of new Extreme reservations coming every month. It’s quite feasible that only by the end of 2023, Magna will be able to ramp up beyond the monthly new Extreme order book. I’d say Magna needs to be able to make at least 7,000 Oceans per month to be able to squeeze some Ultras in there.