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Well we knew this was coming. The Kia EV6 GT-line (the current top trim) is $56.4k. It is a pretty safe bet the full blown GT will be over $60k - probably closer to $65k. Not even factoring any dealer markups (which tend to be $10k plus in my area), this is not a good value stacked up against the Ultra or even the Extreme. I really like this car too but it is a Kia, a brand known for good value. This car should start under $30k like the Equinox, and the maxed out GT should be $50k or less. I just don't get these prices...
 

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I rented a RWD EV6 for a weekend and it was decent. Much quieter inside, better built, and smoother over rough pavement than my tesla model 3. Self driving functionality was good enough. But I could never buy one because when I adjusted the seat and steering wheel to a comfortable position, the steering wheel completely eclipsed all the info in the instrument cluster. To see the info, I had to raise the steering wheel way up high like a bus driver or something. And there was no where to rest my elbows when my hands were on the wheel. It was an ergonomic mess. This is what I'm most eager to find out about the Ocean - how well does the car fit me physically?
 

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Well we knew this was coming. The Kia EV6 GT-line (the current top trim) is $56.4k. It is a pretty safe bet the full blown GT will be over $60k - probably closer to $65k. Not even factoring any dealer markups (which tend to be $10k plus in my area), this is not a good value stacked up against the Ultra or even the Extreme. I really like this car too but it is a Kia, a brand known for good value. This car should start under $30k like the Equinox, and the maxed out GT should be $50k or less. I just don't get these prices...
Hyundai CEO said their brand and Kia is using their EV brands to make a new name for themselves in terms of price and quality on the market. The days of them being best value are on the way out more than likely. Honda and Toyota have dropped the ball and others are racing to pick it up.
 

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I rented a RWD EV6 for a weekend and it was decent. Much quieter inside, better built, and smoother over rough pavement than my tesla model 3. Self driving functionality was good enough. But I could never buy one because when I adjusted the seat and steering wheel to a comfortable position, the steering wheel completely eclipsed all the info in the instrument cluster. To see the info, I had to raise the steering wheel way up high like a bus driver or something. And there was no where to rest my elbows when my hands were on the wheel. It was an ergonomic mess. This is what I'm most eager to find out about the Ocean - how well does the car fit me physically?
funny you mention the ergonomics- its my pet peeve as well when there is no logical place to rest elbow/hand while driving.
HF comes from a pedigree of designing some phenomenal sport coupes so i dont think that aspect will be forgotten (🤞) with the Ocean.
 

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Hyundai CEO said their brand and Kia is using their EV brands to make a new name for themselves in terms of price and quality on the market. The days of them being best value are on the way out more than likely. Honda and Toyota have dropped the ball and others are racing to pick it up.
Well I am not buying what they are selling then. It is just too expensive for their product (I also think Tesla is too expensive now for the record). As nice as it is, it is a far cry from a high-line vehicle. They should be competing with GM, Ford, and Stellantis.
 

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I rented a RWD EV6 for a weekend and it was decent. Much quieter inside, better built, and smoother over rough pavement than my tesla model 3. Self driving functionality was good enough. But I could never buy one because when I adjusted the seat and steering wheel to a comfortable position, the steering wheel completely eclipsed all the info in the instrument cluster. To see the info, I had to raise the steering wheel way up high like a bus driver or something. And there was no where to rest my elbows when my hands were on the wheel. It was an ergonomic mess. This is what I'm most eager to find out about the Ocean - how well does the car fit me physically?
Yes, thank you for mentioning it. That is why I wished Heads up display should at least be an option in ocean. My X5 is the same, the steering wheel adjusted to my comfortable position blocks top half of the cluster. I have experienced it with rented KIAs(never rented the TVs though) as well.
 

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This is why the Ocean is so compelling. Every other manufacturer says: Performance, Price, Range - pick two. Ocean gives you all three.
 

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It's rated at 206 miles but no way you get anywhere near that. Realistically, you're getting 180 to 190. Lets give it the benefit of the doubt and say it gets 190 miles of range realistically. Now, factor in a 20% reduction for cold weather. 190 * .20 = 38. 190 - 38 = 152.

What in the world was Kia thinking releasing a product that goes 152 miles for what's probably going to be a $60,000+ car in 2022? This is almost as bad as Audi charging you $88,000 for an E-Tron that goes 220 miles!
 

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Yes, thank you for mentioning it. That is why I wished Heads up display should at least be an option in ocean. My X5 is the same, the steering wheel adjusted to my comfortable position blocks top half of the cluster. I have experienced it with rented KIAs(never rented the TVs though) as well.
I wear polarized sunglasses so HUDs are pretty useless to me. But I've never had much problem seeing the readouts on any car I've ever driven until I got into the EV6. It seemed horribly designed. They make it so you can see this big useless cartoon animation of the car from any position, and put the actual useful info in places that the wheel totally blocks it.
 

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I’m 6’ 2” and brushed my head on the headliner even in the no sunroof version. It felt very tight and cramped inside. My model 3 feels way bigger. Immediately passed on it once I sat in it, never drove one.
 

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I’m 6’ 2” and brushed my head on the headliner even in the no sunroof version. It felt very tight and cramped inside. My model 3 feels way bigger. Immediately passed on it once I sat in it, never drove one.
Same with me. Headroom is almost 2" less than Model 3. Hoping the Ocean comes in at 40" or better. That is the magic number in my experience...
 
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