[UltraVol]

I've been trying to think my way through the actual physical shipment and delivery of my new Fisker Ocean from Austria to Knoxville, TN. I'm comfortable in my understanding of how the car comes via ocean transport from Europe to a USA port of entry...let's say...New York, Baltimore, Norfolk, Brunswick or Jacksonville as a likely POE. However, my concept of final delivery of my car to my house in Knoxville from the POE is where my thinking becomes clouded. I'm pretty sure Fisker has said that they will use a "Concierge Service" for inland transport and final delivery to the consumer. OK, I'm cool with that arrangement; but, it seems to me that it would be quite expensive to move one vehicle at a time from the POE to someone's house?

I'm probably going to be a buyer versus a leaser for my new Ocean and I have an existing vehicle that I plan to trade-in to Fisker (for the sales tax benefits and disposal of existing vehicle convenience) upon arrival of my new car. My concept of this portion of the purchase process again becomes clouded at this point. I believe Fisker is planning on using a company such as CARVANA or CARMAX to handle their trade-ins since they don't want used vehicles as part of their business plan. Again, I'm cool with that arrangement too, as long as I don't get hosed on the realized return on my trade vehicle. So, would, let's say CARVANA, pick up my new car at the POE and deliver it to me at my home and pickup my trade-in once they make the new Ocean's delivery?

Ok, yes, I know that nobody on this forum knows the definite answers to these questions. These questions fall into the category of unanswered questions that "more details will be made available closer to the Ocean's launch date." Perhaps some folks my have their own ideas to share with us forum members about the delivery logistics that Fisker intends to use. Perhaps there are other automotive OEM(s) that use a similar technique to facilitate delivery to consumers. Personally, I can't think of any that do it this way; but, I could be wrong...again🤪! What if you happen to live in the "boonies?" Any thoughts or comments?

 

[MTN Ranger]

I've been trying to think my way through the actual physical shipment and delivery of my new Fisker Ocean from Austria to Knoxville, TN. I'm comfortable in my understanding of how the car comes via ocean transport from Europe to a USA port of entry...let's say...New York, Baltimore, Norfolk, Brunswick or Jacksonville as a likely POE. However, my concept of final delivery of my car to my house in Knoxville from the POE is where my thinking becomes clouded. I'm pretty sure Fisker has said that they will use a "Concierge Service" for inland transport and final delivery to the consumer. OK, I'm cool with that arrangement; but, it seems to me that it would be quite expensive to move one vehicle at a time from the POE to someone's house?

I'm probably going to be a buyer versus a leaser for my new Ocean and I have an existing vehicle that I plan to trade-in to Fisker (for the sales tax benefits and disposal of existing vehicle convenience) upon arrival of my new car. My concept of this portion of the purchase process again becomes clouded at this point. I believe Fisker is planning on using a company such as CARVANA or CARMAX to handle their trade-ins since they don't want used vehicles as part of their business plan. Again, I'm cool with that arrangement too, as long as I don't get hosed on the realized return on my trade vehicle. So, would, let's say CARVANA, pick up my new car at the POE and deliver it to me at my home and pickup my trade-in once they make the new Ocean's delivery?

Ok, yes, I know that nobody on this forum knows the definite answers to these questions. These questions fall into the category of unanswered questions that "more details will be made available closer to the Ocean's launch date." Perhaps some folks my have their own ideas to share with us forum members about the delivery logistics that Fisker intends to use. Perhaps there are other automotive OEM(s) that use a similar technique to facilitate delivery to consumers. Personally, I can't think of any that do it this way; but, I could be wrong...again🤪! What if you happen to live in the "boonies?" Any thoughts or comments?

Initially, Fisker will probably ship each car out separately. Eventually, I see them setting up regional delivery networks (say 6-8 areas) where the cars can be stored. Then ship those cars out from there. It will be interesting to see how this compares to Lucid and Rivian which have very few showrooms.

Does you state give you a discount on taxes with a trade-in when it occurs with a purchase? If not, I would contact all of the wholesale companies (Carmax, Carvana, Vroom, Webuyanycar) and get quotes as it gets time for trade. Even if you state does, I would contact those companies plus some local auto dealers and get a price. If the price is better with Fisker (including tax benefits), go with them. I've had good luck selling privately for much better pricing. Back in 2018, I sold a 2008 Mini Clubman SE for $7500 privately versus $3400-3600 offered by Tesla, Carvana, etc. I put up two online ads (less than $50) and sold the car within two weeks to the first person that responded.

 

[UltraVol]

Initially, Fisker will probably ship each car out separately. Eventually, I see them setting up regional delivery networks (say 6-8 areas) where the cars can be stored. Then ship those cars out from there. It will be interesting to see how this compares to Lucid and Rivian which have very few showrooms.

Does you state give you a discount on taxes with a trade-in when it occurs with a purchase? If not, I would contact all of the wholesale companies (Carmax, Carvana, Vroom, Webuyanycar) and get quotes as it gets time for trade. Even if you state does, I would contact those companies plus some local auto dealers and get a price. If the price is better with Fisker (including tax benefits), go with them. I've had good luck selling privately for much better pricing. Back in 2018, I sold a 2008 Mini Clubman SE for $7500 privately versus $3400-3600 offered by Tesla, Carvana, etc. I put up two online ads (less than $50) and sold the car within two weeks to the first person that responded.

Hi Ranger and thanks for your input. I generally agree with your comments above. Yes, my state lets you pay the difference between the purchase price of the new vehicle and the trade-in amount of your trade so you only pay taxes on the difference. So, of course, it's generally best to trade...if...or unless...you can do better some other way. I've bought and sold more vehicles than I can easily remember, and, I've used all the methods you mentioned...direct private sale to an individual usually being the best return. I've sold cars to CarMax versus trading and come out ahead, even with the tax savings considered. I've sold my last 5 motorcycles on CycleTrader (for only $50 a pop listing fee!) to people who lived everywhere from Arizona, Indiana, Michigan, Florida and, even Tennessee! Online sales have always yielded me an excellent return on my bikes, and sometimes, I even made money on them! 👏

And, like you say on the likely Fisker delivery concept, I'd say they will eventually set up regional hubs where they would forward several cars a one time from the POE for ultimate individual delivery to the consumer by a Carvana type company. Agreed, they may learn from what Lucid and Rivian are doing.

 

[Blu Angel]

@UltraVol @MTN Ranger
In my humble opinion, the Fisker Experience Centres afford the most
logical and economic venue of receiving, prepping & delivering to
new Fisker owners.
Los Angeles, New York City & Miami FEC's should all be up and running
by Christmas 2022

 

[UltraVol]

@UltraVol @MTN Ranger
In my humble opinion, the Fisker Experience Centres afford the most
logical and economic venue of receiving, prepping & delivering to
new Fisker owners.
Los Angeles, New York City & Miami FEC's should all be up and running
by Christmas 2022

Well, I can agree that the FECs would be an excellent venue for a delivery for the Fisker products. However, in my humble opinion, I would expect said FEC to be within a 4 hour drive of my home base. For me, that would require Fisker to have a FEC location, in let's say, either the Atlanta, Birmingham, Nashville, Cincinnati or Charlotte metro areas. Furthermore, I don't know why Fisker wouldn't be much better off going to Atlanta, GA than Miami, FL with an initial FEC. To me, Atlanta is a much more strategic location for this purpose than Miami? Oh well, one can only hope!

 

[Blu Angel]

@UltraVol

I would expect said FEC to be within a 4 hour drive of my home base. For me, that would require Fisker to have a FEC location, in let's say, either the Atlanta,

Excellent point!
Atlanta, GA over Miami, Fl would make a better FEC

 

[MTN Ranger]

Hi Ranger and thanks for your input. I generally agree with your comments above. Yes, my state lets you pay the difference between the purchase price of the new vehicle and the trade-in amount of your trade so you only pay taxes on the difference. So, of course, it's generally best to trade...if...or unless...you can do better some other way. I've bought and sold more vehicles than I can easily remember, and, I've used all the methods you mentioned...direct private sale to an individual usually being the best return. I've sold cars to CarMax versus trading and come out ahead, even with the tax savings considered. I've sold my last 5 motorcycles on CycleTrader (for only $50 a pop listing fee!) to people who lived everywhere from Arizona, Indiana, Michigan, Florida and, even Tennessee! Online sales have always yielded me an excellent return on my bikes, and sometimes, I even made money on them! 👏

And, like you say on the likely Fisker delivery concept, I'd say they will eventually set up regional hubs where they would forward several cars a one time from the POE for ultimate individual delivery to the consumer by a Carvana type company. Agreed, they may learn from what Lucid and Rivian are doing.

There is a big gap between Rivian , Lucid (20) and Tesla, which will have close to 200 service centers in North America this year.

@UltraVol

Excellent point!
Atlanta, GA over Miami, Fl would make a better FEC

It has to do with sales volume. Florida EV sales are higher than NC/SC/GA/TN combined. FL is second in EV sales after CA.

 

[UltraVol]

There is a big gap between Rivian , Lucid (20) and Tesla, which will have close to 200 service centers in North America this year.


It has to do with sales volume. Florida EV sales are higher than NC/SC/GA/TN combined. FL is second in EV sales after CA.

Well, you have a point there and I'll take your word on your statistics. However, Atlanta is the "Regional Captial City" for the greater southeastern region of the US...in my opinion. Atlanta would no doubt be a much easier destination for all of us "new/prospective" EV want-to-be owners to access. Heck, they already got their EVs in south FL! Fisker needs to come to Atlanta and "plow some NEW ground!"⚡😎

 

[MTN Ranger]

Well, you have a point there and I'll take your word on your statistics. However, Atlanta is the "Regional Captial City" for the greater southeastern region of the US...in my opinion. Atlanta would no doubt be a much easier destination for all of us "new/prospective" EV want-to-be owners to access. Heck, they already got their EVs in south FL! Fisker needs to come to Atlanta and "plow some NEW ground!"⚡😎

Sure, I would love a center in Atlanta or Charlotte, considering I live in NC. But I would understand why it would take some time as Fisker expands.

 

[UltraVol]

Sure, I would love a center in Atlanta or Charlotte, considering I live in NC. But I would understand why it would take some time as Fisker expands.

Me too. But, one can only hope that they might want to reconsider the Miami location.

 

[Blu Angel]

@MTN Ranger

it has to do with sales volume. Florida EV sales are higher than NC/SC/GA/TN combined. FL is second in EV sales after CA.

What a shocker!
Miami FEC over Atlanta FEC

My guesstimate for #4-#12 FEC
San Francisco CA
Boston, MA
Seattle, WA (also serve Vancouver CDA)
Washington, DC (also serve Baltimore)
Chicago, IL
Houston/Dallas, TX
Denver , CO
Atlanta, GA
Philadelphia, PA

Does this make any sense?

 

[Conleyga]

Miami doesn’t make sense over Atlanta just based off geography. Plus having more registered EVs in FL actually works against them in my book. Especially if you’re looking for growth.

 

[ToddH65]

Selfishly, I would love to see an. Experience Center in Atlanta. And the sooner the better. 😀

 

[UltraVol]

Miami doesn’t make sense over Atlanta just based off geography. Plus having more registered EVs in FL actually works against them in my book. Especially if you’re looking for growth.

Thank you Conleyga. My point exactly! 👏

 

[Blu Angel]

@Conleyga

having more registered EVs in FL actually works against them in my book.

I respectfully disagree.
It's called "Keeping up with the Joneses"

If your neighbour, your street and/or your county is full of EV's
showcasing their leadership in climate action,
then YOU certainly don't want to be the last person
on your street with an air polluting gas guzzling ICE vehicle!

 

[sirozha]

There are hundreds (probably) thousands of trucks moving cars among car dealerships from coast to coast. They will hire one of those companies and will put your Fisker Ocean on a truck passing by your city. You will get a call from the logistics company handling the transport to arrange a time to deliver the Ocean to you at a place where the truck can easily ingress, unload, and egress. It could be in your neighborhood, your place of work, or some other place. That's considered a concierge delivery. I've had experience in having cars shipped to me across the country, and that's how the process was handled.

 

[526]

Thats how Lucid and Rivian handled early deliveries, too, based on news reports. Probably Tesla too, back in the early days. I guess they have to get this all ironed out this year, along with service and support. America is a big country and they’ll need a lot of coverage to really sell nationwide.

 

[182]

Plus having more registered EVs in FL actually works against them in my book.

Florida doesn't need anything more working against them...they're all "full up".