[BayouCityBob]

Pricing is out for the 2023 Mach-E:

Mustang Mach-E	MSRP
Select RWD Standard Range Select eAWD Standard Range California Route 1 eAWD Extended RangePremium RWD Standard Range Premium eAWD Standard Range GT Extended Range	$ 46,895 $ 49,595 $ 63,575 $ 54,975 $ 57,675 $ 69,895
Extended Range Battery Nite Pony Appearance Package GT Performance Package	$ 8,600 $ 800 $ 6,000

All I have to say is WOW the Ocean One/Extreme is looking like a better deal every day and the Ultra (for those who have locked for 2023) is a screaming good deal. The GT ER is obviously same price as the One/Extreme but has a measly 290 miles of range. You have to slap and extra $6k on top for the performance package to get comparable 0-60 performance. And, of course, Mach-E is a noticeably smaller vehicle. Compared to the Ultra, Mach-E does not even come close...

Ford reopens Mach-e orderbank, pricing, colors, and range updates

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[SeaPhil4]

Comparisons like this make me smile and help to assuage the anxiety i felt(feel?) about changing my original reservation from an Ultra to a ONE and jacking up my price by $20k…

Keep posting stuff like this, @BayouCityBob , it is a great mood elevator!

 

[EVolution]

@BayouCityBob I must say I appreciate your affinity for numbers and hard data. Keep up the good work.

 

[HotIce]

Beat me to it. This really shows how good of a value the Ocean(any trim at this point) really is compared to the competition in its class. Thank you for posting.

 

[FiskeredMan]

Thanks - This makes me happy too - the ULTRA (firm order status now). Wonder if firm order means they will honor the 49,999 price.

 

[Jxca]

As someone who has a firm order for an ultra but was also planning on ordering a ‘23 Mach E. Yikes. Not moving forward with Mach E. And super relieved and excited for Ocean!

 

[FutureSurfer]

Thanks - This makes me happy too - the ULTRA (firm order status now). Wonder if firm order means they will honor the 49,999 price.

Yes if you have a firm order, the base pricing for each trim is on the document. The pricing for the options is the big unknown now...

 

[MTN Ranger]

. And, of course, Mach-E is a noticeably smaller vehicle.

Ford reopens Mach-e orderbank, pricing, colors, and range updates

Ford is making good on its EV promises so far, and today the automaker is reopening orders for the popular...

electrek.co

Noticeably smaller is arguable. 187" Mach-E vs 188" Ocean seems close to me. Cargo area with 30cf seats up/ 60cf seats down will be close or larger than the Ocean (need final numbers).

Of course the EV range, performance and price go to the Ocean's favor.

 

[BayouCityBob]

Noticeably smaller is arguable. 187" Mach-E vs 188" Ocean seems close to me. Cargo area with 30cf seats up/ 60cf seats down will be close or larger than the Ocean (need final numbers).

Of course the EV range, performance and price go to the Ocean's favor.

I was referencing the specs I have seen from Ford vs Fisker where the width is noticeably smaller but as you say, we need final real data to do a size comparison. Here is what I have (subject to final data!):
Length 185.6 vs 188
Width 74 vs 78.3
Height 64 vs 64.1

Cargo Depth to back seat 32.7 vs 36
Cargo width between wheel wells both slightly more than 40"
Cargo Height 30 vs 26 (clear advantage on Mach-e)

I should note, however, the cargo height in the Ocean is at the rear of the hatch, the height on the Mach-E is at almost the rear headrest where the hatch opens and then it has a very significant slope from there. The Bjorn Banana Box Test will be interesting!

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2022/mach-e/pdf/22MACH_E_Tech_Specs.pdf

 

[Blu Angel]

@BayouCityBob
Thank You for posting this information

Mustang Mach E was my FIRST choice of BEV to replace my wife's Volvo C30
It's still a great vehicle and Ford Motors should sell a record number in the USA
BUT, the little known Fisker Ocean takes the crown!

 

[voxel]

Mach-E Premium AWD ER and Model Y are now basically the same price and both eligible for tax credit. In 2021 and 2022 there was a $15K price difference. I wonder what will happen to MME sales…

The MagneRide suspension on the GT Performance is wonderful at high speeds. I test drove a BMW i4 M50 with adaptive suspension and it was excellent too. Most people buying crossover are willing to accept body roll and don’t need crisp handling. The extra $10-15K isn’t worth it to the majority.

 

[Jim Wants An Ultra]

Pricing is out for the 2023 Mach-E:

Mustang Mach-E	MSRP
Select RWD Standard Range Select eAWD Standard Range California Route 1 eAWD Extended RangePremium RWD Standard Range Premium eAWD Standard Range GT Extended Range	$ 46,895 $ 49,595 $ 63,575 $ 54,975 $ 57,675 $ 69,895
Extended Range Battery Nite Pony Appearance Package GT Performance Package	$ 8,600 $ 800 $ 6,000

All I have to say is WOW the Ocean One/Extreme is looking like a better deal every day and the Ultra (for those who have locked for 2023) is a screaming good deal. The GT ER is obviously same price as the One/Extreme but has a measly 290 miles of range. You have to slap and extra $6k on top for the performance package to get comparable 0-60 performance. And, of course, Mach-E is a noticeably smaller vehicle. Compared to the Ultra, Mach-E does not even come close...

Ford reopens Mach-e orderbank, pricing, colors, and range updates

Ford is making good on its EV promises so far, and today the automaker is reopening orders for the popular...

electrek.co

And the reality is, until Ford actually addresses the Dealer Markups, the price delta between Fisker Ocean and the Mustang will only be LARGER. Locally, here in New Jersey, the markup is in the 9000-12000 range. I refuse to pay such a premium, and I think it is a solid reason that the direct to consumer model needs to happen more pervasively.

 

[Blu Angel]

@Jim Wants An Ultra

I refuse to pay such a premium, [$9,000-&12,000] and I think it is a solid reason that the direct to consumer model needs to happen more pervasively.

Welcome to the Oceanforum and what a BOLD and accurate first statement.
Please, take the time to introduce yourself and explain your convoluted journey
to the Fabulous Fisker Ocean!

 

[Tulsaboog]

I have a Mach E GT Performance, and it is a really great car. The frunk also adds some storage space. When my wife first drove the Mach E she was suddenly interested in having an EV herself. Have the Ocean One coming, and really looking forward to that car. Love the looks. If it really has 350 mile range, that will be great. Also would like the cooled seats.

 

[Blu Angel]

@Tulsaboog
A HUGE welcome to the Oceanforum
You're gonna be a TWO EV family in no time at all!
I agree, the Mustang Mach E GT is sweet.
Pray do tell, who gets to keep the Ocean ONE?

 

[Tulsaboog]

Well, that remains to be seen. I love driving Electron Burgundy, but I can't wait to get behind the wheel on the Ocean One. I will be wise and let her choose, but we may have trade out periodically😉