[Misanoblue]

I see some resemblance.

New Renault 5 makes inaugural UK appearance at Goodwood | Autocar

Style-focused electric city car forms part of Renault's push to launch seven EVs by 2025

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[BigMach-E]

This is the exact reason that Fisker needs to hit everything right with the Ocean. That means that they have to satisfy the reservation holders that want the Sport. If the Ocean Ultra and Sport at the advertised price never comes to fruition in meaningful numbers, Fisker is going to have others eat their lunch. Mark my words. I have a Pear reservation, but I don't have to buy. They have to make the cars, they have to be better than anything else out, at a better price point. Competition is out there. They are either ahead of Fisker, or they are coming out around the same time.

 

[sirozha]

This is the exact reason that Fisker needs to hit everything right with the Ocean. That means that they have to satisfy the reservation holders that want the Sport. If the Ocean Ultra and Sport at the advertised price never comes to fruition in meaningful numbers, Fisker is going to have others eat their lunch. Mark my words. I have a Pear reservation, but I don't have to buy. They have to make the cars, they have to be better than anything else out, at a better price point. Competition is out there. They are either ahead of Fisker, or they are coming out around the same time.

The cars are currently a hot commodity. There are some sub-par EVs coming out of Subaru, Mazda, etc. and even they will sell like hot cakes.

I'm traveling in Canada right now, and I'm seeing the same issue with the shortage of cars available for sale. Yesterday, I visited a Kia dealership that had exactly ZERO new cars on their lot and just a handful of used cars. No inventory to speak of. Of course, Kia has been making superb vehicles lately, which are in high demand. The situation may be a little better with other brands - I don't know. But, in general, right now any new car will be sold in a heartbeat, and that's true for the US and Canada.

I don't know the current situation in Europe, but I suspect it's similar. Additionally, a lot of cars were manufactured in Russia (and probably Ukraine). All car plants making European automobiles in Russia are closed. Russia doesn't even have parts today to make their own LADA cars, and they are now manufacturing LADAs without air-conditioning and airbags because those parts are no longer shipping to Russia.

We are at a unique time, and Fisker is lucky to be launching their EVs this fall because he will sell every single one he can make. If you are not planning to buy one, the next in line will.

 

[BigMach-E]

The cars are currently a hot commodity. There are some sub-par EVs coming out of Subaru, Mazda, etc. and even they will sell like hot cakes.

I'm traveling in Canada right now, and I'm seeing the same issue with the shortage of cars available for sale. Yesterday, I visited a Kia dealership that had exactly ZERO new cars on their lot and just a handful of used cars. No inventory to speak of. Of course, Kia has been making superb vehicles lately, which are in high demand. The situation may be a little better with other brands - I don't know. But, in general, right now any new car will be sold in a heartbeat, and that's true for the US and Canada.

I don't know the current situation in Europe, but I suspect it's similar. Additionally, a lot of cars were manufactured in Russia (and probably Ukraine). All car plants making European automobiles in Russia are closed. Russia doesn't even have parts today to make their own LADA cars, and they are now manufacturing LADAs without air-conditioning and airbags because those parts are no longer shipping to Russia.

We are at a unique time, and Fisker is lucky to be launching their EVs this fall because he will sell every single one he can make. If you are not planning to buy one, the next in line will.

I don't think that's true. With the "no test drives" thing, no customer financial branch at time of writing, and others possibly gobbling up market share, as well as the Flexee Lease program likely given a slow roll, I think it's going to be harder than you expect to "sell out". All it takes is one stop sale recall, and Fisker Inc is likely done as a brand.

Look, I wouldn't have bought my Mach-E if it wasn't as easy to line everything up, from the financing to the test drives to being able to get in and out of the dealership in a couple of hours with a new car. There's a lot going for Fisker, but it's still very unproven, and a lot of things have to break the right way for it to survive.

 

[MTN Ranger]

The Ocean will be sold out for 2023 and most likely 2024. They are going to be supply limited.

 

[sirozha]

I don't think that's true. With the "no test drives" thing, no customer financial branch at time of writing, and others possibly gobbling up market share, as well as the Flexee Lease program likely given a slow roll, I think it's going to be harder than you expect to "sell out". All it takes is one stop sale recall, and Fisker Inc is likely done as a brand.

Look, I wouldn't have bought my Mach-E if it wasn't as easy to line everything up, from the financing to the test drives to being able to get in and out of the dealership in a couple of hours with a new car. There's a lot going for Fisker, but it's still very unproven, and a lot of things have to break the right way for it to survive.

There are enough people out there who don’t need financing and want an EV. In a high-inflation time and stock market crashing, people who have cash are trying to buy anything of value to at least try to preserve their cash.

 

[TT97]

There are some sub-par EVs coming out of Subaru, Mazda, etc. and even they will sell like hot cakes.

The ToyoBaru will likely sell like hot cakes; but Mazda managed to miss even a sub-par target. The MX-30 has been available for sale since last December and they have managed to sell 354 total vehicles in the U.S. for the six months through 5/31/22.

 

[Alley Oop]

I don't think that's true. With the "no test drives" thing

Henrik is running lean. Why spend money on test drive programs when you’re getting all the orders you can build? I agree with you, though, that luck and timing will play a role in continued operation—just like the dozen or so other EV startups. The next few years are going to be interesting. I hope in a good way!