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Do we know if there are going to be Paddle Shifters for regen breaking ?
My Ioniq 5 is super efficient in the city because I can completely abandon using disc breaks and only break by using Paddle Shifters.
This gives me really amazing city results on flat terrain anywhere from 4.0 to 5.0 mi/kwh.

If I remember correctly Fisker confirmed option for choosing custom regen levels, but I haven't seen anything on regen breaking on demand without the use of disc breaks.

Does anyone know if there will be such an option ?
 

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Do we know if there are going to be Paddle Shifters for regen breaking ?
My Ioniq 5 is super efficient in the city because I can completely abandon using disc breaks and only break by using Paddle Shifters.
This gives me really amazing city results on flat terrain anywhere from 4.0 to 5.0 mi/kwh.

If I remember correctly Fisker confirmed option for choosing custom regen levels, but I haven't seen anything on regen breaking on demand without the use of disc breaks.

Does anyone know if there will be such an option ?
Please see #10 here 馃憠 Fisker Ocean Big List of Questions (and Answers)
 

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I am assuming their will not be like a paddle shift for adding and reducing the braking regen. I think it is a pre set setting on the big infotainment screen to choose how you would like the regen to act. If you are use to regen braking their is no need to adjust it. That to me is not one pedal driving to me. One pedal driving is just using the accelerator to adjust the braking force. If you want extreme braking remove foot from accelerator. If you want a less regen just leave accelerator pushed in a little bit but do not release it all the way.

So act like you are driving a manual transmission with the clutch. Just release the accelerator enough to allow the car to slow down with regen if you need more then release foot a little more.
 

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Do we know if there are going to be Paddle Shifters for regen breaking ?
My Ioniq 5 is super efficient in the city because I can completely abandon using disc breaks and only break by using Paddle Shifters.
This gives me really amazing city results on flat terrain anywhere from 4.0 to 5.0 mi/kwh.

If I remember correctly Fisker confirmed option for choosing custom regen levels, but I haven't seen anything on regen breaking on demand without the use of disc breaks.

Does anyone know if there will be such an option ?
There will not be paddle shifters as seen in the Ionic 5. Henrik has stated that the amount of regen is associated with the drive modes which can be changed from the steering wheel (right side, left button). There may even be a custom drive mode which allows you to customize the regen and more, but that is not confirmed.
 

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Let me clarify this a little bit ...all I am curious is "can we break on demand using regen not disc breaks?" ...doesn't have to be paddle shifters ..could be done by pressing button or something.
 

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So act like you are driving a manual transmission with the clutch. Just release the accelerator enough to allow the car to slow down with regen if you need more then release foot a little more.
Thing is on ioniq you can breaking by release the accelerator ...but you can break even more by pressing the paddle shifter.
The way I like to use it for example is , driving in the city with Level 1 or Level 0 regen setting, where there is no rolling resistance and then when I need to break I jest press the paddle shifter instead of using disc break.
 

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Thing is on ioniq you can breaking by release the accelerator ...but you can break even more by pressing the paddle shifter.
The way I like to use it for example is , driving in the city with Level 1 or Level 0 regen setting, where there is no rolling resistance and then when I need to break I jest press the paddle shifter instead of using disc break.
I do not think there will be a button to press to "break harder" as there is no place for it. The level of regen will depend on the mode you are in and any custom settings the UI/UX will allow. The amount of breaking range is also an unknown. Henrik has stated that one of the modes will basically be one-pedal driving, we do not know if he means "true" one pedal driving where the vehicle will come to a stop when you let off the accelerator.
 

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I do not think there will be a button to press to "break harder" as there is no place for it. The level of regen will depend on the mode you are in and any custom settings the UI/UX will allow. The amount of breaking range is also an unknown. Henrik has stated that one of the modes will basically be one-pedal driving, we do not know if he means "true" one pedal driving where the vehicle will come to a stop when you let off the accelerator.
It is super interesting to me as I find IONIQ 5 - regen levels and breaking options just phenomenal. It is on another level even when comparing to Tesla.
 

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Yes I do like the solution and interface that Hyundai came up with. Too bad it is neigh impossible to buy one near me and actually impossible to pay MSRP for one.
I think this should change with NO TAX CREDIT now , once the inventory gets bigger. I mean , at least I hope so. I managed to get my at MSRP in February but that was a real pain in the ass.
 

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Yes I do like the solution and interface that Hyundai came up with. Too bad it is neigh impossible to buy one near me and actually impossible to pay MSRP for one.
You can buy a Bolt that has had the paddle since it was introduced in 2017. They will have tax credit starting again in a few months.
 

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It is super interesting to me as I find IONIQ 5 - regen levels and breaking options just phenomenal. It is on another level even when comparing to Tesla.
How is it better?

I've driven a Model 3 for a few years, and have the regen set to max constantly. I can't see any advantage in having to use a paddle; simply lifting the accelerator pedal gradually works great.
 

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How is it better?

I've driven a Model 3 for a few years, and have the regen set to max constantly. I can't see any advantage in having to use a paddle; simply lifting the accelerator pedal gradually works great.
Have you ever driven IONIQ 5 ? You will notice the difference instantly. There are 5 different regen settings for different situations and different driving styles + option to regen break on demand by pressing paddle shifter. For example when I am going downhill last thing I want to have is max regen and slow down my car to a halt by releasing the accelerator. When going downhill I'd rather set the regen to level 2 or 1, so that the car is still cruising down the hill but at the same time regenerates a lot of the energy back while still going. On the other hand when driving in the city I'd rather have Regen Level 0 or 1 to get maximum cruising capability plus by breaking with paddle shifter I am getting a ton of energy back. That's why Ioniq 5 is so efficient in the city. Tesla Model 3 has some really basic regen, that is nowhere near as good or smooth as Ioniq 5. The regen on Ioniq is on a next level.
 

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Have you ever driven IONIQ 5 ? You will notice the difference instantly.
No, I have not. But I've driven other cars with paddles, and I don't like them. I want my hands focused in steering, not fiddling with paddles.

There are 5 different regen settings for different situations and different driving styles + option to regen break on demand by pressing paddle shifter. For example when I am going downhill last thing I want to have is max regen and slow down my car to a halt by releasing the accelerator.
In a Tesla I also have many amounts of regen levels to choose between, which are controlled by a single simple input: how much I lift my foot of the accelerator pedal.

Coming to a red light and want to fully brake: fully lift my foot.

Going down a hill, and car is going slightly too fast: ease off a bit on the accelerator.

I really hope that my Ocean will work in just the exact same way.
 

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In a Tesla I also have many amounts of regen levels to choose between, which are controlled by a single simple input: how much I lift my foot of the accelerator pedal.
No that's not how regen levels work. You are talking about regen sensitivity for accelerator, that's something completely different. If you ever have a chance give Ioniq 5 a test drive.
The settings you have on your Tesla is called I-Pedal on Ioniq. Personally it's the least useful regen setting for me.
 

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No that's not how regen levels work. You are talking about regen sensitivity for accelerator, that's something completely different. If you ever have a chance give Ioniq 5 a test drive.
The settings you have on your Tesla is called I-Pedal on Ioniq. Personally it's the least useful regen setting for me.
It would be nice if you could just explain why one would want a setting for regen levels to begin with. You've repeated three times now that the Ionic's settings + paddles are superior, but have not explain why that is, and what to use it for.

I really can't see why you even want anything but regen always set to max and then control everything the the pedal.
 

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It would be nice if you could just explain why one would want a setting for regen levels to begin with. You've repeated three times now that the Ionic's settings + paddles are superior, but have not explain why that is, and what to use it for.

I really can't see why you even want anything but regen always set to max and then control everything the the pedal.
Seems like you have no understanding of Regen Levels and you are confusing them for regen accelerator settings...so to me it is like trying to describe colors to a blind person. No pun intended.
 

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Seems like you have no understanding of Regen Levels and you are confusing them for regen accelerator settings...so to me it like trying to describe colors to a blind person. No pun intended.
I am confused as well. I understand regen levels; I don't understand how regen levels is different than "regen accelerator settings." With Ioniq having 4 levels (well, none plus 3 other) - how if releasing the accelerator fully not equivalent to Level 3 yet a partial release of the accelerator like a Level 1 or 2 on the Ioniq?
 

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I am confused as well. I understand regen levels; I don't understand how regen levels is different than "regen accelerator settings." With Ioniq having 4 levels (well, none plus 3 other) - how if releasing the accelerator fully not equivalent to Level 3 yet a partial release of the accelerator like a Level 1 or 2 on the Ioniq?
Regen Accelerator Pedal on Tesla Model 3 works in a super simplistic way just like I-Pedal does on Ioniq 5.....you press the pedal you drive, you start releasing the pedal you slow down. Try to answer this question ...Let's start with the basics .....let's say you are driving a Model 3 at 85mph on a highway with regen accelerator pedal pressed, can you now try to freely cruise with zero rolling resistance for a long time with zero energy input ?
 
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