[bronco7777]

Hello OF members!

I just signed up for this forum a couple of days ago. I'd like to preface my question by saying that I've been incredibly focused on helping my wife purchase a EV6 First Edition (Only 1500 made) that we have a reservation on; which are now starting to arrive. We still have a week or so before ours arrives at our dealership. Thus we've been doing so much homework on this with other EV6 FE owners that I really haven't spent much time studying-up on the Ocean because it's still several months away from arriving. So please excuse my lack of clarity.

Back in October 2020 when Fisker first launched reservations I jumped in and got my reservation completed. At that point there were no trim specs on display or pricing options to choose from. The under 40K price point was the only thing mentioned at that point in time. I now see there is another reservation list up and running at the moment. It now seems as if the Launch reservation I made back in 2020 will only be tied to one trim...the Ocean One...which is basically the same as an Ocean Extreme with a few extras. That car will be 69K to start. A lot more than I thought I was signing up for back in 2020. So my question is, the $250 I paid back then... can that be transferred over to the new regular reservation list? Or do I have to start all over again? Now that trim options and pricing was released the Ultra is likely my purchasing level.

 

[Blu Angel]

@bronco7777
First, congrats on the FE Kia EV6.....a great EV!

As for Fisker Inc. Your reservation gets you a spot in line.
Once Fisker opens up "Order Desk Confirmatiions"
you should be able to complete the Fisker order with
your chosen model (eg. Ultra) plus available options.

Henrik has stated that the Option Packages will not
be announced until September 2022.

Finally, if any Reservation Holder chooses to completely
cancel his/her reservation, then Fisker will keep $25 (admin cost.)

 

[bronco7777]

@bronco7777
First, congrats on the FE Kia EV6.....a great EV!

As for Fisker Inc. Your reservation gets you a spot in line.
Once Fisker opens up "Order Desk Confirmatiions"
you should be able to complete the Fisker order with
your chosen model (eg. Ultra) plus available options.

Henrik has stated that the Option Packages will not
be announced until September 2022.

Finally, if any Reservation Holder chooses to completely
cancel his/her reservation, then Fisker will keep $25 (admin cost.)

Thanks for your quick reply but just to be clear the process you just described...that only applies to the standard reservations....not the initial launch reservations that was done in 2020...correct?

 

[Blu Angel]

@bronco7777
I think it's all the same process.
However, an e-mail to Fisker Inc may be necessary for clarification

 

[Jay]

Fwiw, Blu's understanding is mine, too. I tagged an Extreme in my reservation, but I don't think I'm tied to that model until we get closer to delivery.

 

[Blu Angel]

Henrik Fisker stated:

-Ocean configurator will launch late this summer

-allow reservation holders to configure the minute details of their new electric SUV.

this October 2022, Fisker will reach out to customers to firm up rezzies into actual orders.

-Fisker warranty program (best in the world) will offer customers:
6 year/60,000 mile warranty for the powertrain
10 years/100,000 miles for the battery

 

[bronco7777]

I have emailed Fisker about this and the answer so far has been vague. I'm inquiring further to get more details and obtain an answer for my question.

But just to clarify further what I'm asking:

My reservation was one of the 5000 First Edition reservations back in 2020. Not the current reservation list which also includes the PEAR; which is growing by the day.

Back in 2020 there were no trim specs or pricing for models other than Henrik vaguely stating that he would bring a sub-40K EV to market.
Fast forward to this last November and the LA Auto Show when the pricing was revealed for the models. In that announcement it was said that the original first 5000 reservation holders from 2020 (myself included) would get the first cars and those cars would be the Ocean "ONE" ($68,999). Personally I think I want the ULTRA ($49,999) So my question is, when they call me as part of the first 5000 reservation holders can they just transfer my reservation from a "ONE" First Edition to an "ULTRA"? Or do I have to create an all new reservation under the new system/list and get back in line?...go to the back of the line at this point?

 

[Baker]

I have emailed Fisker about this and the answer so far has been vague. I'm inquiring further to get more details and obtain an answer for my question.

But just to clarify further what I'm asking:

My reservation was one of the 5000 First Edition reservations back in 2020. Not the current reservation list which also includes the PEAR; which is growing by the day.

Back in 2020 there were no trim specs or pricing for models other than Henrik vaguely stating that he would bring a sub-40K EV to market.
Fast forward to this last November and the LA Auto Show when the pricing was revealed for the models. In that announcement it was said that the original first 5000 reservation holders from 2020 (myself included) would get the first cars and those cars would be the Ocean "ONE" ($68,999). Personally I think I want the ULTRA ($49,999) So my question is, when they call me as part of the first 5000 reservation holders can they just transfer my reservation from a "ONE" First Edition to an "ULTRA"? Or do I have to create an all new reservation under the new system/list and get back in line?...go to the back of the line at this point?

I beleive that if you buy or lease, bcs you only reserved for now, the Ocean Ultra you will be not in the first batch of 5,000 which is only for Ocean One, but you will be in the first in the second batch no matter the version of your choice.

 

[Roland]

If it helps this seems similar to my situation for a Model 3 when I decided to wait for Standard Range options. I would be very surprised if Fisker doesn't at least match that process but I don't know this is just what I think is likely. I didn't lose my place in line. I was invited to configure and purchase, I chose to wait and then purchased when SR+ with the options I chose was available and I was ready to finally buy. I had to wait longer yet because the options combination was less common.

I don't see anything in the reservation terms that indicates there are multiple Ocean lists, being first 5000 looks to mean you have more total options 👍. However I would expect to have to wait for the Ultra to be at least shipping, then the options shipping. You'll be invited to configure early, but won't have an Ultra until a bunch of One's and Extremes have shipped. Just my thoughts on what's likely.

 

[Baker]

If it helps this seems similar to my situation for a Model 3 when I decided to wait for Standard Range options. I would be very surprised if Fisker doesn't at least match that process but I don't know this is just what I think is likely. I didn't lose my place in line. I was invited to configure and purchase, I chose to wait and then purchased when SR+ with the options I chose was available and I was ready to finally buy. I had to wait longer yet because the options combination was less common.

I don't see anything in the reservation terms that indicates there are multiple Ocean lists, being first 5000 looks to mean you have more total options 👍. However I would expect to have to wait for the Ultra to be at least shipping, then the options shipping. You'll be invited to configure early, but won't have an Ultra until a bunch of One's and Extremes have shipped. Just my thoughts on what's likely.

How far they will go in the production on the high ends bas the mark up is better before to move on Ultra and Sport, nobody knows! I hope that they will take care of the reservations that they got in the time. To follow

 

[bronco7777]

If it helps this seems similar to my situation for a Model 3 when I decided to wait for Standard Range options. I would be very surprised if Fisker doesn't at least match that process but I don't know this is just what I think is likely. I didn't lose my place in line. I was invited to configure and purchase, I chose to wait and then purchased when SR+ with the options I chose was available and I was ready to finally buy. I had to wait longer yet because the options combination was less common.

I don't see anything in the reservation terms that indicates there are multiple Ocean lists, being first 5000 looks to mean you have more total options 👍. However I would expect to have to wait for the Ultra to be at least shipping, then the options shipping. You'll be invited to configure early, but won't have an Ultra until a bunch of One's and Extremes have shipped. Just my thoughts on what's likely.

UPDATE:
So I got a response back from Fisker regarding my reservation status.

They mentioned I will not have to make another reservation if my intention is to switch from the "ONE" to the Ultra even though I was one of the first 5000 to reserve for the first edition. They say: "As it stands, we will contact the reservation holders as we get closer to production so that you may configure the vehicle and choose the trim level you wish to purchase. Once the first 5000 Ocean ONES are manufactured, the builds for the other trims based on the reservations will follow. We will have more exact delivery information as we get closer to production"

So the way I interpret this is...I will be one of the first 5000 called at which time if I decide to back out of the "ONE" they will take my Ultra configurations on the spot and then I just have to wait till they finish releasing the ONE's and the EXTREME's. After those higher end trims are completed I should be one of the first ULTRA deliveries. This makes sense. I hope I'm right about how I'm interpreting that answer....if not, and somehow you interpret this another way please let me know.

I was just concerned that if they called me and I stated I wanted to switch out of the ONE they would at that moment tell me I had to make a brand new reservation and get back at the end of the line; thus prolonging the wait. With the general reservation list getting longer by the day I wanted to make sure I wasn't relying on assumptions. I'm currently going through the KIA EV6 First Edition rollout and KIA screwed things up so much in that process that now I take nothing for granted. Hence the reason I was trying to push for clarification. I hope that helps anyone in a similar situation.

 

[Jay]

Thank you for getting the info and sharing it.

 

[Blu Angel]

@bronco7777
See, nothing to worry about!
Too bad about the KIA ev6 mess-up

 

[diesel701]

I think you got it right. First batch would be 5,000 ONE, then the others. The list remains the same.

Fisker has planned to produce 5,000 cars each month, so I guess that the other trims will arrive in early/mid 2023. But only time will tell.

 

[bronco7777]

@bronco7777
See, nothing to worry about!
Too bad about the KIA ev6 mess-up

Was kind of gun shy after the EV6.

 

[Roland]

It’s likely to be a challenging confusing time for consumers, and car co’s alike.

I think it’s a strategic advantage for Fisker, only EVs, build from scratch with component partners and where a large part of the model has already been proven. But there will be lots of bumps, steady as she goes ⛵

Legacy auto has been dragged kicking and screaming, into not just a new type of car but new expectations like:

• no dealer haggling
• no maintenance schedule to keep your warranty
• new workflows “the app and online experience doesn’t work for my problem”
• personnel training especially where that person now handles ICE and EV
• customer learning curve for EV, it’s not large but things like charging can be stressful until it’s in place

 

[bronco7777]

It’s likely to be a challenging confusing time for consumers, and car co’s alike.

I think it’s a strategic advantage for Fisker, only EVs, build from scratch with component partners and where a large part of the model has already been proven. But there will be lots of bumps, steady as she goes ⛵

Legacy auto has been dragged kicking and screaming, into not just a new type of car but new expectations like:

• no dealer haggling
• no maintenance schedule to keep your warranty
• new workflows “the app and online experience doesn’t work for my problem”
• personnel training especially where that person now handles ICE and EV
• customer learning curve for EV, it’s not large but things like charging can be stressful until it’s in place

Changes to the car industry can't come fast enough in my opinion.

I predict in 5-7 years the dealership model will evaporate away. It's already shown incredible signs of decline in the last couple of years. Even though there are some nice and trustworthy dealerships here and there the majority make the car buying experience a nightmare. Direct buying from the OEM (Like Tesla, Polestar & Fisker) is easier. In 10 years ICE cars will be the cassette tapes of the car industry and really just be relegated to only being relevant as antiques or collectibles.

 

[Toad Stool]

Fwiw, Blu's understanding is mine, too. I tagged an Extreme in my reservation, but I don't think I'm tied to that model until we get closer to delivery.

Interesting. I've several Fisker Ocean orders but the first ordered in Feb. 2022 I edited last night and it allowed me to change from Ultra to sport, Extreme, or One. Honestly, I only chose the One to see what would happen and it allowed me to select it. When prompted to save or cancel my changed config I cancelled. Then I confirmed that first order is still for the Ultra.

My other more recent Fisker order provide me no options whatsoever to edit, except to cancel that specific order.

I'm also curious. Is the One still available? Implying they've not met their 5000 quota for Ones to be produced? I'm assuming the One is the Launch edition, right?

 

[Langer]

I did the same and changed my configuration selection to a One several weeks back. I didn't think I had a chance of being part of the first 5000 at my 30000 place holder level. I was just a little curious though even though I would turn it down for the Ultra I have decided to go for. If they would contact me I might freak out and capitulate to a One just to get it early and then suffer buyers remorse.
We won't know how far they get down the list until they start sending out the emails to commit to a One in July.

 

[Baker]

I did the same and changed my configuration selection to a One several weeks back. I didn't think I had a chance of being part of the first 5000 at my 30000 place holder level. I was just a little curious though even though I would turn it down for the Ultra I have decided to go for. If they would contact me I might freak out and capitulate to a One just to get it early and then suffer buyers remorse.
We won't know how far they get down the list until they start sending out the emails to commit to a One in July.

Well if the 80% of sales from Henrik is correct it will take about 7000 reservations to book the 5000 One!
If in reality it is 50%, it would be 10000, sorry you and me are out of the game.