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I've had my Model Y for about one and a years now and I have a couple things that I hope Fisker gets right compared to my Model Y. I have owned a lot of luxury cars and this was my first electric car. Not bad all in all but it needs some improvements. I'll have a full review of my Model Y up soon. These are just some of the things that I think Fisker has to nail.

1. The ride - The ride on my Model Y isn't horrible but it can get a bit choppy on the 20" Induction wheels. I really hope that Fisker has spent time on actually tuning the suspension since it won't come with air suspension. I also hope they spend time tuning the dampening and the body control. With the Model Y, the body leans into turns and when the ride gets choppy, you're getting thrown around.

2. Interior Quality - The interior quality of the Model Y is good, but it needs a bit of improvement. For example, while the seats are probably the most comfortable, I have ever sat in, when you're exiting or when you lean on the side of the seat at a drive-thru or an ATM, there is this really hard part and it's not comfortable. My seat also creaks sometimes. Tesla moving to the 4680 cells and bolting the seats directly to the batteries should add more rigidity and maybe fix this.

3. Quality Control - My Model Y had very few issues when I picked it up. A couple panel gaps here and there. The biggest issue was a misaligned rear trunk and taillight and a misaligned driver door. What I didn't know was I had a leaking rear window. Every time it rained, or I washed my car, I'd have massive puddles of water in my trunk. Getting cars out to customers is important but so is having the car be in perfect shape. At the price point, there are so many options that give you a more premium experience. It's been a year and a half since I got my Model Y and Tesla is still having problems with panel gaps and misaligned doors and hatches. It's inexcusable.

4. Service - My local service center has been pretty good. The issue is you don't get any kind of loaner vehicle. I am someone that needs a car when my car is in for service. I drive A LOT for work and for just getting things done. $50 of Uber credits is not something that works for me. If loaners are limited, how about putting more loaners in the fleet? I have heard of so many people that love their Tesla but won't be getting another one because of the poor service experience. This is going to make or break Fisker. Us early adopters are going to face a lot of bugs and issues.

5. Cost cutting - Over the past few years, Tesla has been cutting their costs but raising the price of the car. They have also improved the car in many different regards like adding double pane windows but they're also removing speakers and other features.

6. The wipers - They suck. I like the idea behind them. Having the washer nozzles integrated into the wipers is not new. I don't know why the wipers suck so bad and streak at the top of the stroke.

7. The Auto Wipers - They are absolutely abysmal. They have improved over the years with software updates but they're still not perfect. They're either not wiping at all or wiping really really fast. Again, tech that has been in the automotive industry for decades that Tesla somehow messed up. Having a rain/light sensor solves this problem. What boggles my mind is, they literally have a condensation sensor but refuse to put in a light sensor.

8. Auto high beams - They are unusable. They're constantly flicking up and down up and down and it's super annoying. You'd think Tesla which prides itself in being a tech company would program some kind of logic into the auto high beams that isn't just "See headlights or taillights and dip'. Yet another unnecessary change by Tesla that didn't need changing. It also dips REALLY late. Like, you've already blinded people by the time the car sees the other car and dips the high beams.

9. Regen braking - Tesla use to give you the option to change regen braking levels and later removed it. Sometimes my regen braking is great and other times it's not and I can't figure out the formula to have it be great all the time.

10. Driver assistance systems. - They are really intrusive. I'll have two car lengths between me and the car in front of me and I'll be driving at like ten miles an hour and the collision warning goes off. It's really annoying. So is the lane keep feature. It's constantly dragging me into the middle of the lane even if I tap my turn signal for three blinks and a quick lane change. AutoPilot is good but it lacks some logic in certain conditions. It slams on the brakes in traffic isn't isn't smooth at all. My Model Y does have radar.


Bonus: Fisker has to be constantly updating their cars. Don' be like Porsche. Tesla and Rivian are doing it right.
 

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But you know you love your MY. Nothing is perfect, take it from a former Fisker owner, you live with the quirks and enjoy it.
I absolutely do love the Model Y. I just don’t love Tesla service. Wipers for the Y are impossible to find unless you go through Tesla. I am not expecting Fisker to deliver a perfect product but I expect them to deliver a solid product.

I really need to drive one with the 22’s cause the 20” Inductions on my Model Y are rough and the suspension does not provide any significant dampening or body control.
 

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I absolutely do love the Model Y. I just don’t love Tesla service. Wipers for the Y are impossible to find unless you go through Tesla. I am not expecting Fisker to deliver a perfect product but I expect them to deliver a solid product.

I really need to drive one with the 22’s cause the 20” Inductions on my Model Y are rough and the suspension does not provide any significant dampening or body control.
The MY has a suspension, lol. I know what you mean I have driven the M3 and MY a lot and I prefer the M3 but both lack the smart air suspension offered in MS & MX. You have to go after market and upgrade, might be worth it.
 

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I absolutely do love the Model Y. I just don’t love Tesla service. Wipers for the Y are impossible to find unless you go through Tesla. I am not expecting Fisker to deliver a perfect product but I expect them to deliver a solid product.

I really need to drive one with the 22’s cause the 20” Inductions on my Model Y are rough and the suspension does not provide any significant dampening or body control.
These should work on the Model Y. I just bought them for my 3. https://amzn.to/38agVx7
 
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i hear your complaints and most are minor that could be corrected by Tesla
as for the suspension, I would suggest going the aftermarket route…..

the coil overs suspension is a huge improvement over the stock Tesla 3
nexr best improvement would be perhaps a foursome of light weight forged wheels!

ive done both and love my Tesla 3!


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I've had my Model Y for about one and a half months now and I have a couple things that I hope Fisker gets right compared to my Model Y. I have owned a lot of luxury cars and this was my first electric car. Not bad all in all but it needs some improvements. I'll have a full review of my Model Y up soon. These are just some of the things that I think Fisker has to nail.

1. The ride - The ride on my Model Y isn't horrible but it can get a bit choppy on the 20" Induction wheels. I really hope that Fisker has spent time on actually tuning the suspension since it won't come with air suspension. I also hope they spend time tuning the dampening and the body control. With the Model Y, the body leans into turns and when the ride gets choppy, you're getting thrown around.

2. Interior Quality - The interior quality of the Model Y is good, but it needs a bit of improvement. For example, while the seats are probably the most comfortable, I have ever sat in, when you're exiting or when you lean on the side of the seat at a drive-thru or an ATM, there is this really hard part and it's not comfortable. My seat also creaks sometimes. Tesla moving to the 4680 cells and bolting the seats directly to the batteries should add more rigidity and maybe fix this.

3. Quality Control - My Model Y had very few issues when I picked it up. A couple panel gaps here and there. The biggest issue was a misaligned rear trunk and taillight and a misaligned driver door. What I didn't know was I had a leaking rear window. Every time it rained, or I washed my car, I'd have massive puddles of water in my trunk. Getting cars out to customers is important but so is having the car be in perfect shape. At the price point, there are so many options that give you a more premium experience. It's been a year and a half since I got my Model Y and Tesla is still having problems with panel gaps and misaligned doors and hatches. It's inexcusable.

4. Service - My local service center has been pretty good. The issue is you don't get any kind of loaner vehicle. I am someone that needs a car when my car is in for service. I drive A LOT for work and for just getting things done. $50 of Uber credits is not something that works for me. If loaners are limited, how about putting more loaners in the fleet? I have heard of so many people that love their Tesla but won't be getting another one because of the poor service experience. This is going to make or break Fisker. Us early adopters are going to face a lot of bugs and issues.

5. Cost cutting - Over the past few years, Tesla has been cutting their costs but raising the price of the car. They have also improved the car in many different regards like adding double pane windows but they're also removing speakers and other features.

6. The wipers - They suck. I like the idea behind them. Having the washer nozzles integrated into the wipers is not new. I don't know why the wipers suck so bad and streak at the top of the stroke.

7. The Auto Wipers - They are absolutely abysmal. They have improved over the years with software updates but they're still not perfect. They're either not wiping at all or wiping really really fast. Again, tech that has been in the automotive industry for decades that Tesla somehow messed up. Having a rain/light sensor solves this problem. What boggles my mind is, they literally have a condensation sensor but refuse to put in a light sensor.

8. Auto high beams - They are unusable. They're constantly flicking up and down up and down and it's super annoying. You'd think Tesla which prides itself in being a tech company would program some kind of logic into the auto high beams that isn't just "See headlights or taillights and dip'. Yet another unnecessary change by Tesla that didn't need changing. It also dips REALLY late. Like, you've already blinded people by the time the car sees the other car and dips the high beams.

9. Regen braking - Tesla use to give you the option to change regen braking levels and later removed it. Sometimes my regen braking is great and other times it's not and I can't figure out the formula to have it be great all the time.

10. Driver assistance systems. - They are really intrusive. I'll have two car lengths between me and the car in front of me and I'll be driving at like ten miles an hour and the collision warning goes off. It's really annoying. So is the lane keep feature. It's constantly dragging me into the middle of the lane even if I tap my turn signal for three blinks and a quick lane change. AutoPilot is good but it lacks some logic in certain conditions. It slams on the brakes in traffic isn't isn't smooth at all. My Model Y does have radar.


Bonus: Fisker has to be constantly updating their cars. Don' be like Porsche. Tesla and Rivian are doing it right.
I own a Model Y. I’ve also owned luxury vehicles. Model Y is not a luxury vehicle. It’s an overpriced mediocre vehicle, but’s it’s an amazing electric drivetrain computer on wheels.
 

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I would need a lifetime guarantee that the air suspension airbags will not leak and deflate when temperatures drop below 60F. My Lincoln Navigator had that problem after 5 years and eventually damaged the compact air compressor for the air suspension system costing me $600 in parts and labor. The leaking airbags were fixed with a simple o-ring replacement. Then, then 3 years later another replay and I switched to conventional coiled spring suspension that costed $1K. Never again, I vowed.....
 

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I would need a lifetime guarantee that the air suspension airbags will not leak and deflate when temperatures drop below 60F. My Lincoln Navigator had that problem after 5 years and eventually damaged the compact air compressor for the air suspension system costing me $600 in parts and labor. The leaking airbags were fixed with a simple o-ring replacement. Then, then 3 years later another replay and I switched to conventional coiled spring suspension that costed $1K. Never again, I vowed.....
The Ocean does not have air suspension so no guarantee is available for them.
 
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As for the ride, Fiskers are coming with 22inche wheels so.........
Had 18 inch on the model 3 and like the extra cushion. No matter what car manufacture, when you get to 21 inches and over and have a thin azz tire, the ride is going to be a bit harsh, pretty much no way around that. Downgrade to at least 18inch if you want some type of smooth cadillac seville cushion ride

Ive have zero issues with wipers at all

I have been to the service center a couple times, they actually give us $100/day in Uber credits on the east coast so not bad

The auto high beams were unusable at first, but ive used them since the last update and the appear to work much much better. You can of course just turn the high beams on and off manually like everybody else....

had the option on my model 3 to turn regen off. No option on the Y. However, i never turned it off on the 3 so not a big deal at all on the Y

Ive had 0 problems with the adaptive cruise control and is great for stop n go slow traffic on the beltway, I let the car do all the driving

(2022 Tesla Model Y Performance on 21inch rims,cant wait to slap on some 295 wide tires in the rear)

None of these issues are even close to deal breakers for me buying a Tesla.

Still looking for a 2nd electric vehicle. Right now its a Pear in 2 years i guess.........
 

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As for the ride, Fiskers are coming with 22inche wheels so.........
Had 18 inch on the model 3 and like the extra cushion. No matter what car manufacture, when you get to 21 inches and over and have a thin azz tire, the ride is going to be a bit harsh, pretty much no way around that. Downgrade to at least 18inch if you want some type of smooth cadillac seville cushion ride

Ive have zero issues with wipers at all

I have been to the service center a couple times, they actually give us $100/day in Uber credits on the east coast so not bad

The auto high beams were unusable at first, but ive used them since the last update and the appear to work much much better. You can of course just turn the high beams on and off manually like everybody else....

had the option on my model 3 to turn regen off. No option on the Y. However, i never turned it off on the 3 so not a big deal at all on the Y

Ive had 0 problems with the adaptive cruise control and is great for stop n go slow traffic on the beltway, I let the car do all the driving

(2022 Tesla Model Y Performance on 21inch rims,cant wait to slap on some 295 wide tires in the rear)

None of these issues are even close to deal breakers for me buying a Tesla.

Still looking for a 2nd electric vehicle. Right now its a Pear in 2 years i guess.........
Wheel size is irrelevant; it is the tire sidewall height that matters (and of course, suspension set up). The tires on the 22" Ocean have the same sidewall height as the 19" Model Y wheels (4.52") and more sidewall than the 18" Model 3 wheels (4.16").
 

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As for the ride, Fiskers are coming with 22inche wheels so.........
Had 18 inch on the model 3 and like the extra cushion. No matter what car manufacture, when you get to 21 inches and over and have a thin azz tire, the ride is going to be a bit harsh, pretty much no way around that. Downgrade to at least 18inch if you want some type of smooth cadillac seville cushion ride
My Volvo XC60 has 20" wheels (255/45R20 tires) and the ride is super smooth. It depends on the suspension as well as the tire sidewall height. The suspension on the Model 3/Y is harsh compared to most other EVs.
 

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Wheel size is irrelevant; it is the tire sidewall height that matters (and of course, suspension set up). The tires on the 22" Ocean have the same sidewall height as the 19" Model Y wheels (4.52") and more sidewall than the 18" Model 3 wheels (4.16").
NO, the wheel size is NOT irrelevant because you cant put large sidewalls tires on a large rim.
Just because they are the same size as Y doesnt meant that's CUSHION. Clearly higher sidewall can cushion the ride. Smaller rims can obviously get bigger sidewalls on it. Anybody that knows anything about cars will tell you that you can get a better ride with smaller rims, not 22inches

My Volvo XC60 has 20" wheels (255/45R20 tires) and the ride is super smooth. It depends on the suspension as well as the tire sidewall height. The suspension on the Model 3/Y is harsh compared to most other EVs.
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NO, the wheel size is NOT irrelevant because you cant put large sidewalls tires on a large rim.
Just because they are the same size as Y doesnt meant that's CUSHION. Clearly higher sidewall can cushion the ride. Smaller rims can obviously get bigger sidewalls on it. Anybody that knows anything about cars will tell you that you can get a better ride with smaller rims, not 22inches

that's a personal opinion
Pretty much every professional auto review says this about the Model 3 and Y. I guess everyone has the same personal opinion!
 
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